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theseawasangrythatday







PostPosted: January 30, 2004 1:33 PM 

Best seasons: 1993-1995 Larry and Jerry's writing was at its peak. Week in week out, just awesome episodes.

Worst seasons: first season and last season; the first 5 episodes were probably my least favorites. I never cared for the Chinese Restaurant or the Seinfeld Chronicles episodes. And 1998, for the most part, was forgettable

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Bob Sakamano

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PostPosted: February 1, 2004 2:31 PM 

I love the Chineese Restaurant, mostly because of the scene where George is describing the with Tatihana to Jerry. That is purely George.

lessthanjake
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PostPosted: February 1, 2004 3:07 PM 

i don't know how the HELL you can say the last season is the worst when it has so many memorable moments. you are really ignorant if you think the writing went downhill

Luke
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PostPosted: February 1, 2004 3:28 PM 

I agree with Less then Jake. I think the wrting was terrefic in the last season. The 9th season is definitely one of the top seasons if not the best overall.

Mike
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PostPosted: February 1, 2004 4:42 PM 

Best: season 6 and 4

Worst: Season 2

Anonymous
Bob Sakamano

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PostPosted: February 1, 2004 6:07 PM 

Less than Jake-

Judging by your punctuation, I don't think you should call anyone ignorant. The last season had, IMO, 6 good episodes: The Voice, Serenity Now, Festivus, The Maid and the Dealership. It also had many weak episodes; the Butter Shave was stupid, the Blood, the Bookstore, the Backwards episode (what the hell were they thinking??), Puerto Rican Day, Merv Griffin, the Slicer. All those would've been left on the cutting room floor back when Larry David was still writing. Some of the supporting characters, like Puddy and Kruger were good but even they could only help so much.

lessthanjake
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PostPosted: February 1, 2004 8:36 PM 

okay listen. sorry if i don't capitalize my letters. this is just an informal message board. punctuation doesn't really matter at all, so don't be an ass. the backwards episode was brilliantly done and one of the funniest episodes. stupid shows like E.R. try to rip it off by having a show that goes backwards.

I apologize. Do these grammatical skills meet your approval? Ass.

Mike
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PostPosted: February 1, 2004 10:32 PM 

I have to admit, making a comment about punctuation is fairly lame. I think we could make arguments for all seasons being good or bad and just remember, we are only posting opinions on seinfeld episodes, not trying to solve the world's problems. Just to give my opinion, I think season 9 was very funny but a different style from earlier seasons. The good thing about seinfeld was that it evolved and stayed fresh rather than doing the same thing over and over. Obviously some people will like this and some won't.

theseawasangrythatday
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PostPosted: February 2, 2004 10:10 AM 

Jake-

You are the one who made the personal attacks; you called me ignorant and an ass simply because you didn't agree with my observation. I think you define the term ass, and more specifically, asshole.

J. Chiles


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PostPosted: February 2, 2004 10:51 AM 

Speaking of the Mrev Griffin Show episode:

"When you're on here, you clean it up, Mister".

And that is only about one-tenth in jest.

Now, I hate to nit-pick (alright, I love to nit-pick) but there is no episode called "Festivus". That story-line was part of The Strike.

Mike
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PostPosted: February 2, 2004 7:05 PM 

How about a guest host?

I'll pretend I didnt hear that.

lessthanjake
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PostPosted: February 2, 2004 7:27 PM 

theseawasangrythatday: i called you ignorant. i did not call you an ass because i disagreed with your observation. i called you an ass after you attacked the way i write my posts. stop being wrong. thanks

the Opposite
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PostPosted: February 9, 2004 1:54 PM 

I completely agree with Mike.. you cant really tell one season as being the best or the worst... its just a matter of personal opinion

Justin
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PostPosted: February 9, 2004 8:34 PM 

Hmm, The Buttershave was my fav episode. But each to its own


Gack
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PostPosted: February 9, 2004 10:02 PM 

myself, i think that the first six seasons just sort of got better with each year.

by the 7th season, i'd say it reached it's peak. the first six seasons have so many great episodes and moments, but i think beginning with season 7, the show really made the transformation from consistently good to flat-out brilliant. i think if i were to introduce the series to someone who'd never seen it before, i'd show them the last three seasons first, because i think the 7th, 8th, and 9th years really captured the 'seinfeld' essence the best, and they were responsible for some of the best television in sitcom history.

it's amazing how much the show evolved over the years, both in writing and in character development. seriously, compare jerry in the 'seinfeld chronicles' to jerry in, say, 'the pothole.' he's not even the same character.

anyway, my 2 cents.

Mike
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PostPosted: February 9, 2004 10:29 PM 

Yes, but The Pothole was based on a lot of physical comedy whereas the earlier episodes were mainly dialoge driven, which to many is the true essence of Seinfeld. Season 6 was the peak, then went a little downhill. 7 - 9 had a heap of great episodes and beats anything else on tv, but by the standards of seinfeld I thought were a touch weaker

Gack
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PostPosted: February 10, 2004 8:17 AM 

wow... it amazes me how differently people think here... i guess it should be expected, but even still. and i'm certainly not calling you down, mike. an opinion's an opinion. i know a lot of people agree with you.

i think for me, it comes down to how re-watchable the episodes are, and in my eyes, 7-9 are just the creme de le creme. when i made my Top 15 Episodes list, 12 of them were from 7-9. In fact, "The Fusilli Jerry" was the only pre-season-7 episode that made my top ten, and i can count maybe four or five episodes, total, out of the first six seasons that i don't really care for.

and while some may not agree, i think the dialogue only got stronger as the series went on, regardless of larry david's departure. i think the main difference between the first six seasons and the last three is that those first six usually (not always, but usually) depended on being dialogue driven, while the last three took that concept and better combined it with (again, in my opinion) more highly orchestrated, brilliantly thought-out plots. in my favorite episodes list, i mentioned that "The Package" was *the* quintessential episode of Seinfeld, and i stand by it. the way that george's innocent waste of film - as a reason to visit the photoshop lady again - ultimately led to what newman must have considered his finest, most glorious hour, is nothing short of pure genius.

and then there's the matter of the characters themselves. when i mentioned jerry in "The Pothole" versus jerry in "The Seinfeld Chronicles," i was simply driving at how different his personality was. his character evolved from a relatively nice guy with a good heart (perhaps even a romantic at the core) to a guy who literally threw out every one of his belongings after finding out that an unknown household object had been in the toilet. i think that second one makes for better tv.

and i think it's like that with all the characters. they just got better and better as the series went on (particularly the character of george, the single greatest television character of all time, for my money), so much so that there was really no higher place left for them to go. i regret that the series stopped when it did, but i am also a little thankful, because by ending the party when it did, it left a television legacy behind.

anyway, i am just rambling now. not really trying to defend myself or my opinions, because they're just opinions. but hey, i live to argue Smile

the Opposite
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PostPosted: February 10, 2004 12:57 PM 

well said Gack !!! personally I loved the last 3 seasons more than any other season. I think they stopped the show exactly when they were at their peak.. The package has sure been one of my top 5 favorites... A timeless art of seduction... hilarious Smile my top favorites also include 'the reverse peephole' and 'the slicer'

Mike
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PostPosted: February 10, 2004 5:20 PM 

The Opposite, The Jimmy, The Contest, The Virgin, The Cheever Letters, The Boyfriend, The Hamptons, The Label Maker, The Race, The Bubble Boy, The Outing. Just to name a few, not one of these made your top ten???

Gack
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PostPosted: February 10, 2004 6:51 PM 

no, not even my top fifteen (fyi: the three pre-season-7 shows that made the list were "The Fusilli Jerry," "The Marine Biologist," and "The Raincoats"). But still, even if someone were to take my list as a serious guide to what makes Seinfeld so great, the fact that the episodes you listed didn't make it really means nothing. I love everyone of those shows, particularly "The Opposite," "The Hamptons," and "The Race." The problem with picking a small number of favorites out of close to 180 original episodes (you sort of have to exclude clipshows) is that A) you have to leave so many out, and B) the ones that do make it are almost impossible to rank. I seriously spent close to an hour just trying to think of a Top 10, and then another half hour ranking my choices.

I think it says a lot about the overall quality a tv series when it's so difficult to sort out what a person thinks are the top ten episodes, given that there are SO many great ones to choose from.

Mike
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PostPosted: February 11, 2004 6:02 PM 

I respect anyone's opinion about anything but I have to say that The Raincoats was one of the most boring eps ever. Most of the two part ones were fairly boring and long-winded (except The Boyfriend)

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