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Bruce







PostPosted: April 9, 2004 10:16 AM 

This is just for fun. Answer honestly.

1. What was your favorite all-time episode?

2. Who was the funniest (not your favorite) character?

3. Was it Elaine's or Jerry's fault that Babu got deported?

4. Who was Jerry's best looking girlfriend?

5. Which of George's job ended in the biggest disaster?

6. In your honest opinion, was Jerry Seinfeld (the character) a good or not-so-good comedian?

7. Did Kramer living across to Jerry make Jerry's life a) more enriching b) more frustrating c) Did not change the quality of Jerry's life at all?

8. Who had a better buffer zone? Jerry or George (considering their paqrents living in Florida equal weight)?

9. Which Elaine was more exciting: a) Early happy Elaine or b) Late-Year Mean cut-throat Elaine?

10. Did Jerry let people walk all over him?

J. Chiles


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PostPosted: April 9, 2004 10:53 AM 

Cigar Store Indian
Kramer
Elaine
Isabella
Play Now (Both George and the compnay went down)
Good
A
No comparison
B
Yes and no

Gack
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PostPosted: April 9, 2004 11:10 AM 

1. 'The Strike.'
2. George. Bar none. He's my all-time favorite television character, *precisely* because he was so funny.
3. Elaine's fault.
4. Beth (Debra Messing).
5. I'm with Chiles. Play Now, for sure.
6. Yes. The character's comedy was based on Jerry's real comedy, and I find Jerry's brand of comedy to be hilarious. It's not even so much in the observations as it is in the delivery. Gold, Jerry. Gold!
7. Two parts (b), one part (a).
8. Unless I'm reading this question wrong, Jerry.
9. (b)
10. Sometimes.

F. Costanza
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PostPosted: April 9, 2004 11:12 AM 


1. "The Library"

2. Frank Costanza

3. Elaine's

4. Sidra

5. Play Now

6. Great

7. C

8. Same Zone

9. A

10. It depended on the person and/or situation.

Cool

the Opposite
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PostPosted: April 9, 2004 12:27 PM 

1. "The outing"

2. Cramer - ofcourse, even though my fav character is george

3. Elaine's

4. Sidra

5. Play Now( it was one hell of the oil-spill experiment by kramerica industries...)

6. Great

7. A

8. Jerry
9. B
10. Sometimes.

lovin' every minute of it
Magnificent Bastard

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PostPosted: April 9, 2004 12:46 PM 

1. the opposite
2. kramer
3. elaine's
4. nikki
5. play now
6. good
7. more enriching
8. jerry
9. cut throat
10. sometimes

Tor Eckman
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PostPosted: April 9, 2004 2:32 PM 

These are some interesting questions, but I disagree with those who answered that Jerry (the character) is a "good" comedian. Didn't you folks watch "The Pilot"?

"Pardon me sir, I'm going to have to whack you"? That's awful. No wonder NBC only picked up the pilot years later, out of desperation, knowing that one of its top series was ending.

J. Chiles


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PostPosted: April 9, 2004 2:38 PM 

But the "whack you" line came after his assertion that a child's life is preordained if his parents name him Jeeves. Not a bad premise.

Tor Eckman
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PostPosted: April 9, 2004 3:16 PM 

Understood, Counselor, but the premise itself - naming a child "Jeeves" - is hardly one that would emerge from the mind of a "good" comedian. It's the kind of thing one would expect from a Banya.

Recall the many times Elaine begged off of going to Jerry's performances, and the continual allusions to airline peanut jokes (a bottom of the barrel topic). The use of material from amateur friends - the "coup d'toe", or George's ultimate put down: "He was in Game Six, you're making wisecracks in some niteclub." And, recall, that during the Golden Age of Standup in the 80's and 90's, when even hacks like Sally Weaver were getting cable specials, Jerry never did.

I maintain that Jerry Seinfeld was an average standup comedian who did the occasional spot on late night television, and was the co-creator of an awful television pilot ("because he's *my* butler, that's why!") and therefore not a "good" comedian by any stretch.

J. Chiles


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PostPosted: April 9, 2004 3:37 PM 

I will concede COUNSELOR, that Jerry the Comedian on the TV Show was not meant to be as "funny" or successful as the REAL Jerry Seinfeld otherwise was (IS). Were he, he wouldn't have been schlepping around with the likes of George, Kramer, and Elaine.

However, if your opinion is that the REAL Jerry is a second-rate comedian, I'd have to differ. I've seen him on the shows you mention and twice in person. Very funny stuff. But, to each his/her own. There is no accounting for taste. If you don't find him funny, I hope you find other comdeians that trip your trigger.

And, by the way, YOU eat too much diary. Smile

Bruce
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PostPosted: April 9, 2004 3:57 PM 

I know I started this topice, but there was a good reason for me including that question.

I agree with J Chiles in syaing "...that Jerry the Comedian on the TV Show was not meant to be as "funny" or successful as the REAL Jerry Seinfeld otherwise was (IS)."

I think that was intentional that he was a bad comedian and the sit com "Jerry" was bad. They had to set it up for the new president to reject it.

I agree that Jerry Seinfeld the real person is a great comedian. I'm Telling You for the Last Time was excellent and had me cracking up.

I always thought the character Jerry Seinfeld was a boring and dry comedian. So, there's no doubt in mu mind that it was intentional

Frankly I enjoyed the sit com without the comedy club scenes, but I guess they had to show the JS character working.

How many times did people on the show say that they hated his comedy and that he needed new material? Like Neuman asked if he was not going to do his comedy routine at the Neumaniam party.

Tor Eckman
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PostPosted: April 9, 2004 3:57 PM 

Mr. Chiles: I called you "Counselor" because that is your professional title, is it not?

Your point that

"Jerry the Comedian on the TV Show was not meant to be as "funny" or successful as the REAL Jerry Seinfeld"

is *exactly* what I was getting at. The original question, was how funny was the Jerry *character*. And I would make the same argument as you - if he was a good comedian, wouldn't he have moved to LA and hung with the stars and been on HBO, etc?

The *real* Jerry Seinfeld? Yes, I'm in complete agreement with you. He is an outstanding comedian. I've seen him twice also. His new material is terrific, and even more evidence of his abilities (after all, the "laundry is clothes' night out, and the socks make a break for it" routines were getting a *bit* stale). That he is able to come up with new material that is as great, if not better, than his older stuff is testament to how good he is.

Too much dairy? You think so? What about lukewarm water, you know, to shave with?

Tor Eckman
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PostPosted: April 9, 2004 4:01 PM 

"It's just so much fluff" - Marlene, the cashier

Good weekend, everyone.

Hennigan's
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PostPosted: April 9, 2004 4:03 PM 

1. "The Red Dot"
2. Costanza. No other possibility exists.
3. Clearly Elaine's.
4. I forget her name, but whoever was the really hot girlfriend who got whatever she wanted. Or possibly, terri hatcher. Though, many of his girlfriends were gorgeous. I'd have to watch every episode again to make a decision. I always thought Mulva was very pretty as well.
5. Not PLay Now. Working for Pendant -- there is nothing greater than getting fired for sleeping with the cleaning lady on the desk in your office. Though maybe that isn't a disaster. Who knows?
6. Jerry was a so-so comedian on the show. (In response to earlier posts: The pilot had nothing to do with a butler (the pilt on the episode "the pilot" did of course, but not the actual pilot to the show). The real pilot is terrible, though. I think Jerry can be very funny in his comedy at times though.)
7. A -- I was enriched every time the man entered a scene for godsakes.
8. Is this a joke? I think the question must be confusing, because I don't see how anyone could pick George.
9. They both sucked. I hate Elaine. She is a bitch.
10. Naturally.

Little Jerry Seinfeld
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PostPosted: April 9, 2004 6:29 PM 

1. The Sereinty Now
2. I give the nod to Kramer because of EVERYTHING he does. From the noises, to the falling, to the wacky ideas, and the loveability of him. George was great,I think we all know why...
3. Elaines, Jerry asked repeatedly for the mail.
4. I thought Mulva was very attractive.
5. Everyone says Play Now(and I agree in most part), so Im gonna say Pendant Publishing. He didnt know sex in the office wasnt allowed. He had to plead ignorance on that one.
6. Obviously the character was supposed to be "bad" persay. "Jerry" was so corny that it was hillarious. Personally, I found everything he said was funny, but I understand he was supposed to be a decent comedian. In real life, Id say No.1 Comedian of all-time!
7. More enriching to us viewers, but I know if I was Jerry, I would be very frustrated with the K-Man alot of the time.
8. Jerry definatley
9. Early happy Elaine, because she looked so sweet and adorable, but once you got to know her, it was a different story. Very Happy
10. Yes and No. That's the best answer for that one.

Little Jerry Seinfeld
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PostPosted: April 9, 2004 6:30 PM 

1. The Sereinty Now
2. I give the nod to Kramer because of EVERYTHING he does. From the noises, to the falling, to the wacky ideas, and the loveability of him. George was great,I think we all know why...
3. Elaines, Jerry asked repeatedly for the mail.
4. I thought Mulva was very attractive.
5. Everyone says Play Now(and I agree in most part), so Im gonna say Pendant Publishing. He didnt know sex in the office wasnt allowed. He had to plead ignorance on that one.
6. Obviously the character was supposed to be "bad" persay. "Jerry" was so corny that it was hillarious. Personally, I found everything he said was funny, but I understand he was supposed to be a decent comedian. In real life, Id say No.1 Comedian of all-time!
7. More enriching to us viewers, but I know if I was Jerry, I would be very frustrated with the K-Man alot of the time.
8. Jerry definatley
9. Early happy Elaine, because she looked so sweet and adorable, but once you got to know her, it was a different story. Very Happy
10. Yes and No. That's the best answer for that one.

Keith
Bob Sakamano

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PostPosted: April 9, 2004 11:01 PM 

1. The Merv Griffin Show

2. Kramer

3. Elaine, without a doubt

4. Sidra

5. Play Now ended worse, but Kruger Industrial was the overall worst.

6. He wasn't a good comedian, because the acts that WE saw were few and far between. And the one's we did see were lackluster.

7. Kramer is a neutralizing force. While his extreme bumliness (for lack of better words) could be frustrating, he was also a very good friend to have. Always good for a laugh.

8. George, considering the parents.

9. Early

10. Only if he saw benefit in doing so.

Eliab
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PostPosted: April 28, 2004 9:59 AM 

Jerry Seinfeld is an ignorant fool, and, although successful in comedy, deserves an ass kicking for burning the Puerto Rican
Flag! If i were there, which lucky for him I was not, he would still be recovering from his injuries! Only one word can describe him, "Coward". No, two words,
"Whole Ass"! *Note: No Offense Intended to Those Who Enjoy His Homosexual Comedy!

The Real Peterman
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PostPosted: April 28, 2004 11:51 AM 

1. The Calzones
2. Kramer and Steinbrenner
3. Elaine's
4. Nikki
5. Play Now
6. Kickass
7. Enriching
8. Jerry, by far
9. I hate Elaine...but B
10. In a way, especially Nikki.

Frank Costanza
Bob Sakamano

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PostPosted: April 28, 2004 3:01 PM 

1. The Chicken Roaster

2. Frank Costanza

3. Elaine

4. Sidra

5. Play Now

6. Not so good. Especially in the last few seasons were everybody made fun of him for sucking

7. Enriching

8. Jerry

9. Late-Year Mean cut-throat Elaine?

10. Somtimes but he didn't really care

Gack
Wigmaster

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PostPosted: April 29, 2004 7:17 AM 

i still don't see how anyone can say that jerry's character was a *bad* comedian. as kramer says, he's a "minor celebrity," and he earns enough to afford a good manhattan apartment. not to mention that he bought morty a brand new cadiallac with money he made from one good show. plus, he's a semi-regular on the two biggest late-nite shows on television, and when the NYU article about jerry and george's alleged gay relationship is published, it gets picked up by a major american newspaper. i only cite these references because, perhaps with the exception of the manhattan apartment, jerry's colleagues (bania comes to mind) aren't really anywhere near his level.

moreover, even though the premise of the actual series was that the situations and events that arose in jerry's life were the inspirations for his stand-up routine, the jokes themselves were straight out of his real-life act. the only difference between the stand-up jokes on the show and those from his real routine is the way they're delivered.

that said, even when the jerry character falls flat on his face, it's still hilarious... "because he's my butler" was a PERFECT punchline in such an obviously terrible sitcom, and i personlly *love* the "pardon me, sir, i'm going to have to whack you" line.

but nothing beats this...

Jerry: Hey kids. What's the deal with homework? You're not working on your home!

Entire Junior Highschool Assembly: BOOOOOO!

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