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Lucy







PostPosted: October 18, 2004 2:12 AM 

hey. i am so pleased to be able to do a popular culture assignment on a Tv program of my choice, i picked seinfeld, so anyway i need to choose one episode to analyse that kind of opitimises Seinfeld, in the characters, narrative structure, world view etc. I thought there'd be no better place to ask around what others thought I should pick. last time the seasons were repeated we taped everyone so iv got them all....
So any ideas?

J. Chiles


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PostPosted: October 18, 2004 11:04 AM 

I;d probably go with The Cigar Store Indian because the plot is rich for each of the four main characters. Or, I'd go for The Cadillac or The Pen because the contributions of Morty and Helen (and their friends) is pure GOLD!

Jose
Wealthy Industrialist

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PostPosted: October 18, 2004 12:07 PM 

I think you should go with classic episodes like The Outing, The Puffy Shirt, The Soup Nazi, The Contest.

Golden Boy
Hipster Dufus

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PostPosted: October 18, 2004 6:36 PM 

What is Seinfeld?

§ well it’s a show about nothing, so the plot should reflect that as much as possible…yet it is alos about everything so seemingly mundane events should resonate in every day life.
§ the 4 characters are inseparable in terms of importance, so it must be evenly balanced.
§ It must have great quotes;
§ It should have at least one strong character from outside the group;
§ It should reflect a core philosophy – that detail is what matters to people.
§ And above all, very, very funny.

I would suggest:

Either choose the winner of one of Vegetable lasagne’s 'best show of series' votes.
Or I randomly suggest 'The Subway'.

On the face of it, in this episode, George gets robbed, Kramer wins on the horses, Elaine gets stuck in the tube and Jerry falls asleep on the tube waking up opposite a naked man.

But it’s the way it happens that counts, and what it says about the characters. Which man hasn’t exaggerated / made up his job to a woman? (George) and then had his pride punctured? Which of us has not screamed at a horse on the TV? Or wanted to dive for a seat like Kramer. Which of us has not screamed in our minds at a tube stuck in a tunnel? Or started a conversation we don’t know how to finish with a stranger? (Elaine).

It goes without saying that this is all hilarious, and in terms of quotes:
Woman: So, do you work for one of those big broker-houses?
George: They wish. I hate the big broker-houses. Hate them with a passion. Big broker-houses killed my father.
Woman: Really?
George: Well, they hurt him bad. Really hurt his feelings.

Elaine: No, no, no, you don't understand! I'm not a lesbian! I hate men,
but I'm not a lesbian!

The best character they introduce is harder in this (see 'The Library' for my favourite), though I love the fact that Jerry can forge a conversation with a naked man through talking about sport - very true to life. And there’s the hard faced con woman, the two betting guys (‘his mudda was a mudda?’) as well as naked guy.

In terms of core philosophy, for me there are two points. Firstly, the way the 4 handle events is so in character and their personalities so true to life that eventually Seinfeld is quite liberating and life affirming. There is also something symbolic by the going their own way scene at the tube. None of these people need each other overtly, they don’t even care for each other that much (arguably). It’s just that they have sort of fallen into each other’s lives and continue to do so, and when they do they seem to have fun, or a partly shared view of the world. Is this how we live our lives now?

Well, is it?

Don't ask me.

Golden Boy
Hipster Dufus

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PostPosted: October 18, 2004 6:48 PM 

ps this is probably all nonsense so beware. it might provoke debate amongst the really knowledgeable Seiniacs out there though..

lucy
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PostPosted: October 18, 2004 9:57 PM 

ok, well thats a great start. thanks a lot. its cool how you guys have such a passion for the program. i am looking foward to 'having' to watch countless episodes! ahh

Jimmy


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PostPosted: October 19, 2004 6:21 AM 

"The Pen"

Gack
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PostPosted: October 19, 2004 6:52 AM 


'The Contest.'

It's far from being my favourite episode, but it is, I think, the quintessential seinfeld episode. Probably the most famous, as well (if you exlude the series finale.)

Other contenders: "The Chinese Restaurant" and "The Package," the latter still being my favourite in terms of how insignificant events occurring at the beginning of the episode end up playing major roles by the end. The structure of Seinfeld plots (especially in the later seasons) was very distinguishable, and I think "The Package" is a perfect example.

Jose
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PostPosted: October 19, 2004 7:30 AM 

"The Pothole" is also a good example of everything coming together in the end, besides Newman catching on fire is one of the best scenes ever.
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