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PostPosted: December 13, 2004 12:45 PM 

I was just wondering if non-Americans get some of the media referenced bits on the show. Is American media/news really observed worldwide so that everyone gets the OJ stuff? I know I rarely follow politics/crimes in other countries (I am American, after all).

Do people understand the parody of Jackie Chiles/Johnny Cochran? Do people get the Bronco chase with Gendison? The "have her try on the bra" bit?

What about the Tanya Harding parody in The Understudy?

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PostPosted: December 13, 2004 1:35 PM 

I got all of those, though I'm not American. But, being Canadian, our media is very American, and most of us watch American news anyway.

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PostPosted: December 13, 2004 2:14 PM 

Some of the references are age-dependent, too. Heck, and sadly, some people don't know what Geroge means with his "Larry Fine" reference! Sad

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PostPosted: December 13, 2004 2:32 PM 

It's true. I wonder how many people under 30 got Brylcreem. Though, even if they don't know what the product is, they can figure the jist of it. I still don't know who Larry Fine is, but laughed at the joke because I figured he must be bald, and it might even be his trademark or one of them anyway.
This is actually a great topic O'btrien. But I wonder if we would have more success if we asked people to post the jokes or references they didn't get.

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PostPosted: December 13, 2004 2:55 PM 

Larry Fine is (was) Larry, of Moe, Larry, and Curly fame, aka The Three Stooges! Smile

Now your mental imagery can be complete, Gendison. Does that make the line even funnier? (a serious question).

moops
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PostPosted: December 13, 2004 3:16 PM 

A serious question about the Stooges... Smile

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PostPosted: December 13, 2004 3:28 PM 

HAHA! That actually makes if funnier. I never made the connection with Larry Fine and Larry Stooge.
Who are these Stooges you talk about??? You will show me the Stooges?

O'Brien
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PostPosted: December 13, 2004 3:45 PM 

I just love the end of the Understudy when she can't continue because her shoe is untied...flash to the Olympics and Tanya Harding doing the same thing with her ice skate. It is just too beautiful! Not many Americans get that reference though so I was curious about others.

J. Chiles


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PostPosted: December 13, 2004 3:53 PM 

Disgustingly, I suppose everyone, everywhere, understands the "Your honor, we request at this time, that Miss Mishke try on the bra" reference. Sad

Golden Boy
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PostPosted: December 13, 2004 6:45 PM 

O'Brien,

Inspired.

I have often thought of starting a thread asking for such explanations as there are loads of references which I don't quite get (I'm English, so I suppose I'm not bloody likely to). However I refrained because I thought 1) maybe it was just me so why waste everyone's time and 2) could anybody really be bothered to explain?

I think in answer to your question, most people get the OJ stuff but good to have it confirmed, and I've often wondered whether some of the baseball stuff is based on truth (was there a game 6? was there an eccentric owner of the Yankees?) and there are loads of refrences (as Gendison said) that I'd love to have clarified if people can be bothered.

So, I'll start: who or what is 'C Evert Koop' and why is it funny when Jerry makes the remark about Elaine dumping Keith for smoking?

cheers.

Skittles
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PostPosted: December 13, 2004 6:51 PM 

C. Everett Koop is a former U.S. Surgeon General who was a very active fighter against smoking.

So Jerry is saying that Elaine is very strongly anti-smoking. Smile

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PostPosted: December 13, 2004 6:55 PM 

C. Everett Koop was the U.S. Surgeon General from 1981 to 1986 Go Here for more info

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PostPosted: December 13, 2004 6:56 PM 

oops - I clicked my own link above and now see he was surgeon general from 81-89

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PostPosted: December 13, 2004 6:57 PM 

Now I see that skittles beat me to it ....

cousin jeffrey
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PostPosted: December 13, 2004 7:12 PM 

That Larry Fine joke is much funnier now. and as for all the OJ stuff, i think that it was more or less worldwide news, so i think most people got that.

And only now is all the Understudy stuff sinking in. she even LOOKED like tonya harding.
And i had never seen the movie JFK. someone had to tell me that the scene with the second spitter was a parody of that film.

To answer your question o'brien, there was a game 6. it was between the mets and red sox. a very famous game where an error cost the red sox the game.
George Steinbrenner is actually a person and is still owner of the yankees.

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PostPosted: December 13, 2004 7:28 PM 

I had to explain to my friends recently that Joel Rifkin was, in fact, a real serial killer in New York. They thought it was just made up for that episode. Rifkin actually just had a Biography on A&E.

I've always wondered if people got all the New York jokes on the show. All the stuff about the Van Wyck Expressway and Sardi's and obscure towns on Long Island. I thought most of them were hilarious then and still use those lines if I find myself in those places.

cousin jeffrey
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PostPosted: December 13, 2004 7:33 PM 

yeah, i remember when i was in New York and i saw a sign with Van Wick on it. couldn't help but think of elaine's sad story.
i don't understand Sardi's though. what is that?

Gendison
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PostPosted: December 13, 2004 8:39 PM 

This is going to be a great thread, I feel it. I'm feeling something else now, too Jerry.
I don't get all the New York references when it comes to specific places, but it doesn't matter. It gives it a New York flavor just knowing they're (usually) real places. And they don't make the mistake of letting whether you know exactly what they're talking about or not affect the overall story.
One thing I always wondered about and never heard of is what Jerry tells Elaine once had a hair on it. Ferina? wat be dat?

Jimmy


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PostPosted: December 13, 2004 9:04 PM 

One of the little things that Jimmy's often wondered if other people got, was that business doors in New York are supposed to open outward for fire escape reasons, but in The Millennium episode, Putumayo's door swings the opposite way, and both Kramer and Elaine walk into the door, mistakenly trying to pull it from the outside and push it from the inside, as a New Yorker would be use to doing.

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PostPosted: December 13, 2004 9:52 PM 

One scene that most North Americans would probably take for granted, but I wonder many people from other parts of the world is when George says "Dudes in this town are a dime a dozen" and Jerry responds with "I reckon". (I'm not 100% sure if that's the George line that Jerry responds to).

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PostPosted: December 13, 2004 9:54 PM 

Sardi's is a restaurant on the upper east side. Big Broadway crowd (hence Kramer bringing his Tony Award there). It's famous for the caricature drawings that line the walls.

Farina is a kind of oatmeal.

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