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Gerg Costanze

PostPosted: February 14, 2014 9:26 AM 

Looking way too far into things but as Michael Richards took the Kramer character with great thought, being a seasoned actor, I don't think this is taking things too seriously.

He started off wearing bathrobes and supposedly rarely left the apartment building. His hair was also "down". This is again seen in the backwards episode where 11 years in the past (the show has been running for 9 years at this point, so the scene takes place 2 years before the pilot). His hair is down here also.

In The Airport, Kramer flattens his hair when trying to get John Grossbard who he hasn't seen in 20 years, to recognize him.

When Kramer begins accessing the outside world more frequently again, his trademark vintage clothes begin showing up. Richards says this is because "these are the clothes he's always worn, and never bought new ones". Despite this, Jerry says Kramer always wore jeans when he first met him (Kramer is known for wearing slacks, usually too short for him), even though when Jerry actually first meets Kramer, he just lazes around in bathrobes and such. We also learn a few times throughout the series that Kramer frequents the vintage clothes store Rudy's often (which would explain how his wardrobe is always growing). Richards said Kramer had around 46 shirts in an old article I read on his costume a while back.

Kramer states in "The Strike" he has been on strike for 12 years, meaning he had stopped working one year before Jerry met him (The Strike takes place in S9).

So here's my theory using things we know about the character.

Kramer had spent a long time travelling and likely lived with Grossbard when he was in his late teens (remember he left home on a steamer and went to Sweden when he was 17, stated in "The Letter", so maybe he ended up staying with Grossbard). He had also lived in Greenwich Village for sometime, this may be after; and then lived in Los Angeles sometime after that for a few months. I assume when he moved to New York, he got his job at H&H bagels to support himself. On subject of outfit, he would have been picking up clothes at second hand stores throughout his life ro save money; the retro shirts would have been pretty trendy when he was a teen and he has simply kept them, probably the same for the pants and him growing up would explain why they are a tad short (quote Richards saying that they are the clothes he has always worn).

He went on strike from H&H and then didn't have to work, turning him into a guy who just lazes around all day (think Big Lebowski). He was probably getting money in from other things; Kramer states he has written a book "Astonishing Tales of The Sea", so he could in fact be making money from that, but not stating it. When Jerry meets Kramer, it is in his "laze around" days. On the subject of jeans, maybe Kramer tried to look like Jerry in admiration, or was simply going through a phase where he thought he would try something new or an attempt to go mainstream ("I was a different man then, Jerry!"), before going back to the usual choice of clothes.

Kramer's "get-rich-quick" schemes slowly begin at the start of the series, implying he is now running short on cash from going on strike from his job about 2 years ago (from the start of the series). When he finally decides to enter the outside world again, he slowly removes himself from lazing about in t-shirts and whatever and begins dressing in his trademark way. His hair was him trying to spruce himself up a bit also.

That was a long essay, but what do you all think of this theory?

Magnificent Bastard

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PostPosted: February 14, 2014 11:28 AM 

I think you may have something there.

Son of Dad

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PostPosted: February 14, 2014 1:10 PM 

Oh, he's got something, all right.


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PostPosted: February 14, 2014 5:42 PM 

But even nothing is something.


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PostPosted: February 17, 2014 2:16 PM 

I don't think he wrote "Astonishing tells of the sea" he just simply had the book. He did write a book on coffee tables


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PostPosted: February 18, 2014 2:25 PM 

No, see, Greg's not smart. People think he's smart... but he's not.

Mike Wichter
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PostPosted: February 18, 2014 2:57 PM 

We talked about that already. It's all in Greg's book - "Astonishing Tales of Kramer's appearance history on Seinfeld". Six hundred and twenty million people died!


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PostPosted: February 19, 2014 7:24 PM 

Yeah, well I can see that. You got six-hundred and twenty-million Moslems after you, you wanna look in pretty good shape.


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PostPosted: March 31, 2014 7:25 PM 

Who cares about looks?

Ava brown

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PostPosted: April 4, 2014 11:29 AM 

Let's not forget his appearance at the Laugh Factory. He ought to look in to advertising.....for the kkk


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PostPosted: April 8, 2014 11:50 AM 

Nahhh... the KKK is a hate group. Michael Richards doesn't hate. He rightfully used the only word in the English language that is ever capable of hurting such inconsiderate assholes who don't give a shit about other people and who interfere with other people's shows.

The only thing he ever did wrong was to apologize to the scum. That why the shit just continues...

... moron.

Magnificent Bastard

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PostPosted: April 8, 2014 5:44 PM 

I think Richards used the only word that black people truly understand. And guess what? He got their attention. Why? Because the 'N' word is only offensive to black people when white people say it. This, of course, means Richard Pryer, Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle are exempt from scrutiny.

I always laugh when white people cringe at the word "Honkie" or "Cracker'. Are you kidding me? How is that offensive? To me it's like, "That's it? That's the best ya got?" Laughing

Maybe from now on white people should just say "Nnnn... Nnnn..." You know, like "Nnnoonan" in the movie 'Caddyshack'. Laughing


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PostPosted: April 8, 2014 7:14 PM 

Curly, you got any crackers?

Magnificent Bastard

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PostPosted: April 8, 2014 7:29 PM 

That was directed at ME, wasn't it???


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PostPosted: April 8, 2014 8:11 PM 

No... because George asks Jerry for fish sticks after hearing Elaine mention Puddy's Jesus fish. So, for me to ask you for crackers, would be like George asking Elaine for fish sticks instead of Jerry.

On another note, it's puzzling to comprehend how blacks can openly and publicly have the audacity to claim that it's acceptable for one race of people to do something that another race shouldn't be able to... when it comes to using specific words. But not when it comes to sharing the same swimming pools and restrooms... well that's supposedly different.

I would never have apologized.

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PostPosted: April 8, 2014 9:25 PM 

Hey, Curly... you got any of those mini Ritzes?


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PostPosted: April 9, 2014 7:53 AM 

Oh I see... you're friends with the Curlynator, aren't you?

Magnificent Bastard

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PostPosted: April 9, 2014 9:25 AM 

Why would anybody want a friend?

Pat migroin

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PostPosted: April 9, 2014 12:35 PM 

Jimmy is an individualist. He once worked for rush Limbaugh


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PostPosted: April 9, 2014 5:27 PM 

(holding newspaper) Oh, I see.... on the conservative side. What makes you think I didn't work for George Carlin? Oh, I know, because you're the uneducated party-supporting groinman.

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