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BRODY







PostPosted: April 11, 2006 3:57 AM 

Talk about political propaganda when Jerry says "people with guns don't understand, that's why they GET guns, too many misunderstandings!"

When Brody flashes his gun in a shoulder holster in the theater, I always roll my eyes because it's so damn stupid. There's no way on this planet he'd do that in such a packed public place. What's he going to do, SHOOT Jerry right there in the theatre if he doesn't "take the camera?" C'mon gimme a friggin break. Brody was also begging to have some chick with a cell phone call 911 on him with no escape. If chicks see the bottom of your holster, they'll hit 911 which they have on speed dial these days.

In several episodes, the characters bemoan their defenselessness. Kramer gets robbed by the "street toughs" and has to just wimper and take it. They all get stalked by a violent criminal named "crazy Joe Devola" and they can just cower over and over. Talk about pitiful. I tell you what, if some "Devola" comes into MY house like that and threatens me, he's going to get some fast moving lead, instead of listening to me beg like a sissy.

Jerry bashes guns but never mentions the total handgun ban in NYC that "brody" and other criminals pay no attention to.

It's also interesting that in several episodes, they deal with the utter uselessness of the police. Jerry gets robbed and the cop admits he'll never see his stuff again. On the other hand, the cops had no trouble tracking down newman and kramer over that dog, with just a scrap of a shirt Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: April 11, 2006 8:09 AM 

"When Brody flashes his gun in a shoulder holster in the theater, I always roll my eyes because it's so damn stupid. There's no way on this planet he'd do that in such a packed public place."

You've obviously never been to New York...And if you say you have, then I feel even more sorry for you. You should get out more. "Nah.nobody ever gets shot in the city.

The rest of your rant was one contradiction after another...
They make the cops look stupid (Wow! Now that's groundbreaking!!!)...No wait, they DON'T make the cops look stupid, since the cops caught Newman about the dog...No wait, they do,...no they don't...Oh, who knows. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: April 11, 2006 11:19 AM 

Well, this is all very nice and good.

Now I'm dreading ever visiting New York City. Because I'll be walking to the subway and someone will crack me over the head and steal my ipod. I'll be lying there and people will spit on me and empty my pockets. I'll be lying in the gutter like a bum, like a dog, like a mutt, like a mongrel, like an animal! God forbid anybody should help me or call an ambulance. Oh no, that's too much trouble to pick up a phone and press a few buttons. Ahh! What's the point.

I know what you're saying though, Brody. Lots of things don't make sense with the show- like George who in 1971 was registered at JFK HS, yet also claimed to be 10 years old when he dropped and broke his mother's staue while singing MacArthur Park (the statue, mind you, that was on the very fireplace mantle that George once claimed to never have had- his life would have turned out so much differently had they had one...). Anyways, I can only presume he was signing to Donna Summers' popular 1978 version of the song, not Richard Harris' original, obscure version from 1968. And even if George were singing the 1968 version, he wouldn't have been old enough to be in high school by 1971. Ahh! What's the point. Laughing

rio
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PostPosted: April 11, 2006 1:24 PM 

Man, I was watching Sesame Street the other day. That show is so damn stupid, we all know birds can't talk!

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PostPosted: April 11, 2006 1:47 PM 

Who cares if some things didn't make sense in the show. The whole point was to make you laugh and enjoy the show, I know I did.

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PostPosted: April 11, 2006 5:24 PM 

I watch Seinfeld for that high colonic of reality. Shocked You know, those guys who reel marble ryes up the sides of buildings with fishing poles. The guys who push oil-filled rubber balls out of high windows. The Yankee employees who wear Babe Ruth's uniform and drag the World Series trophy by their car bumpers and still keep their jobs. Yeah, Brody flashing his gat--that's a departure from reality.

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PostPosted: April 11, 2006 6:08 PM 

[sidebar]George dragging the Yankees Championship trophy on a chain behind his car while castigating management on a megaphone was the funniest thing he ever did![/sidebar]

BRODY
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PostPosted: April 12, 2006 6:19 AM 

Damn right, I'd never set foot in Bloomberg's disarmed "paradise" where only the "street toughs" have guns.

The main point of my post (since a few of you obviously have to be fed "yankee bean" by your girlfriends) was NOT the lack of reality in Seinfeld, since that is a problem with ALL t.v. shows. I'm mostly pointing out how little Yerry used his show as a vehicle to blatantly push a gun hating political agenda that didn't add humor to the show at all. When Brody brandishes his very illegal (in NYC at least) handgun, the only laughing I did was at how stupid t.v. writers/producers are when they stop doing comedy and start pushing their personal policital agenda. It's like the abortion episode with Elaine. The episode is funny UNTIL the writers use her to push a specific agenda. At that point, that gawd awful "Joey" show becomes funnier than something for the FIRST time in it's history.

rio
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PostPosted: April 12, 2006 9:31 AM 

The "abortion" episode was merely poking fun at the argument itself, and at the fact that people chose to take sides and stick to them [sometimes] blindly. Just because Elaine was clearly on one side doesn't mean the show was pushing for it.

As far as the Brody incident, so what? Has this become such a sensitive issue that merely portraying a gun should get people all riled up in political debate? What about the overwehelming majority of tv garbage, glorifying guns and shooting? Why don't you complain about that?

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PostPosted: April 12, 2006 9:45 AM 

There are no "agendas". Just because someone mentions something in a show, it doesn't mean they're pushing a platform. In the "abortion" episode, a stance is never taken for or against it. Elaine believes in it, Poppy aand the other guy don't.
There is no "ANTI-GUN" statement made in the Brody episode. Jerry doesn't like them, Brody does...Where's this "agenda" you keep mentioning???...Paranoia is very sad. How you read "pushing an agenda" into these things makes me wonder what you're putting in YOUR Yankee beans.

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PostPosted: April 12, 2006 12:33 PM 

Seinfeld has an anti-hairweave agenda.

BRODY
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PostPosted: April 13, 2006 12:24 AM 

There are no "agendas"

Wow talk about naive.

Just because someone mentions something in a show, it doesn't mean they're pushing a platform.

It's the WAY something is mentioned that speaks of an agenda. It's the overtly anti gun statement of Jerry's that "people with guns don't understand" blah blah. It's the TOTAL AND COMPLETE LACK of the pro gun perspective anywhere in that episode OR other episodes. Not only does he make that attack statement aimed at gun owners, but the only NON government gun owner in the show IS A CRIMINAL (Brody). CLEARLY most of you are not even gun owners. If Jerry had said "people with playstations are all bad," I'll bet most of you would see what I'm talking about.

Some of you are incredibly naive. You must have gone to government schools and have not yet awakened. Obviously I am biased in the pro gun direction, but many of you seem INCAPABLE of spotting bias in a t.v. show because you love it so much.

Hey I like Seinfeld too, but I'm able to suspend my love of the show and love of BEING ENTERTAINED, and think INDEPENDENTLY.

Try thinking independently for a change.

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PostPosted: April 13, 2006 4:28 AM 

Well said, Brody

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PostPosted: April 13, 2006 10:29 AM 

Seinfeld has an anti-SoupNazi agenda.

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PostPosted: April 13, 2006 5:25 PM 

Brody spent so much time making no sense, I couldn't even make it to the end of his rediculous post. I think Bookman's last couple of posts make the point, but I have a feeling someone is too stupid to figure it out.
There are no agaendas..."The WAY someone says something"....You need help, man, you're paranoid.

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PostPosted: April 13, 2006 5:28 PM 

SEINFLED IS ANTI-MOHEL!!!!

He must be an anti-Semite. Rolling Eyes

BRODY
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PostPosted: April 14, 2006 6:32 PM 

Yea, there are no agendas, because everything is an accident. Hey, whatever you have to tell yourselves to feel better. Whatever you have to tell yourselves so your fantasy world isn't interrupted.

The Seinfeld show is funny as hell, but the gun hating bias is palpable. Most people in NY and "hollywood" despise guns, but on most shows, the bias isn't so pronounced anymore.

I don't know if any of you are old enough to remember a show from the 80s called "Family Ties" with Michael J. Fox. It was very entertaining and funny. I was about 10 I think when it was on, and I had a view of the world similar to many of the posters here. One time there was an episode where the family gets robbed so the dad goes and buys a revolver. The whole second half of the episode, everybody, especially the dad are freaked out with fear that they have "a gun" in their house. I remember one scene where they stand around looking at it, PETRIFIED with fear. I didn't know enough to think anything about it at the time. I haven't seen that episode since it was on live, and I would probably really roll my eyes at the WRITER'S BIAS if I saw it now. At the end, I think they got rid of the gun and the episode ended with a kind of "whew, we sure are glad we got rid of THAT evil thing" type of attitude.

The kids on this board who can't see people's biases and agendas are in for quite a shock when they hit the real world. It's like they figure that fantasy land television is somehow immune from personal and political biases. Talk about naive.

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PostPosted: April 14, 2006 8:52 PM 

As usual, you lost me about 2 paragraphs in (I'm persistant).

But don't you see the irony here? Out of everyone who posted in this thread, and the whole cast and crew of Seinfeld...The only person who's stance on guns we really know for sure.....is YOU!

Talk about having an agenda. Nice try, coming in here to shove something down people's throats while accusing someone else of having an agenda...It was almost clever but it didn't work.

You're a hypocrite...Now go away...earth is full.

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PostPosted: April 14, 2006 11:28 PM 

I'll finish shooting the movie.

BRODY
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PostPosted: April 15, 2006 3:54 AM 

"But don't you see the irony here? Out of everyone who posted in this thread, and the whole cast and crew of Seinfeld...The only person who's stance on guns we really know for sure.....is YOU!"

No, the real "Yerry" Seinfeld has made his position quite clear on several occasions.

"Talk about having an agenda."

Government schools make a nation of idiots. Um, dude, bro, pal, homie, I never claimed to NOT have an agenda. You clearly scored quite low on reading comprehension.

"Nice try, coming in here to shove something down people's throats"

You're right, I shouldn't have sent those thugs to your house to force you to read this thread. what a dumbass

"while accusing someone else of having an agenda...It was almost clever but it didn't work."

I can accuse anyone of whatever I want. The fact that you're so worked up about me merely making the accusation, just tells me I'm correct in my analysis.

"You're a hypocrite...Now go away...earth is full."

Again, learn to read, I never claimed to be without personal biases or agendas. Never. Go to dictionary.com and look up hypocrite so you don't embarass yourself next time.

rio
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PostPosted: April 15, 2006 9:45 AM 

Brody,

I understand that Jerry's comment is not something that pro-gunners would agree with (obviously), and that gun control has become somewhat of a sensitive political reason. But the bottom line is, we're talking about something that should not be fundamentally offensive to anyone. The fact that people choose to take sides on it makes it so. If we were talking race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc., where the individuals don't have a choice of identity, then I can understand the sensitivity.

So, Jerry made a huge generalization about people that have guns. He's made similar generalizations about doctors, South America, people that don't floss, pilots, people that have ponies, etc. That doesn't mean he's "blantantly pushing" any agendas about any of these things. Sure, some South Americans (like myself) could have very well taken offense by Jerry's implication that all South Americans are drug dealers, but I'm sure most of us just found it humorous.

Finally, you shouldn't be assuming anything about the intellect of people in this forum.
Your self-righteousness won't do anything other than to piss people off.

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