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PostPosted: February 6, 2006 8:35 PM 

What kind of music do you all listen to? What kind of music do you hate? What's wrong with the music of today/yesterday? What's right? If you could sleep with any musician, who would it be and why? If you had to impregnate the wife of a gangster rapper, which rapper's wife would you most want to avoid. Do you think Clay Aiken is gay or just unhappy? Who do you support, Eddie Van Halen or David Lee Roth? Backstreet Boys or N Sync? Metallica or Megadeath? Blues or Redneck music? Was Kid Rock exploiting his midget to cash in on America's obsession with little people? Are the Rolling Stones still cool? What's the last concert you've been to? If you could be any musician on stage performing, who would it be and what's the scenario? Are Black people just plain and simple better at music than White people? Where does that leave the Chinese? Is whistling considered an instrument? If I give you one reason to stay here, will you turn right back around?....Will you?!?

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PostPosted: February 6, 2006 10:09 PM 

Tracy Chapman is passe.

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PostPosted: February 6, 2006 10:39 PM 

Except for the songs I heard as a kid, I don't listen to music with lyrics. Not intentionally; it's just worked out that way. I'm tired of listening to other people at all.

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PostPosted: February 6, 2006 11:03 PM 

Bookman, you would be a candidate for about half of my music library (almost exclusively on vinyl). From cool bop to bluegrass, from funk to sitar, I gotcha covered in the instrumental category. What be yer genre of choice?

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PostPosted: February 6, 2006 11:07 PM 

Oh, CJ, I will thank you not to mention rappers, Clay Aiken, Backside Boys, N Stink, Metallica (with the exception of the intro to Enter Sandman) or Megadeath in a thread having the word music in its title. Smile I think the support division to which you refer is David Lee Roth vs. Sammy Hagar (the Van Halen boys being a constant).

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PostPosted: February 7, 2006 12:06 AM 

I avoid music with vocals also. Since the death of rock n roll in 1991, It's instrumental music all the way for me...

Why do you mention Kid Suck in a music discussion?

J. Chiles


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PostPosted: February 7, 2006 12:08 AM 

OMG, I forgot to include that simp in my "banned" list.

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PostPosted: February 7, 2006 12:29 AM 

Why would I mention Kid Rock?

Well I would think, with the midget and the groupies. Seems like an interesting guy.

As for everyone's loving for instrumental, I can respect that. Musicians have a little too much to say these days. Still, I don't mind a "Yeah" or a "Baby" now and then.

But i'm interested in knowing if any of you have a select group of musicians that you hold in high regard...even if i've never heard of them before...i'll just nod my head and add a smiling emoticon.

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PostPosted: February 7, 2006 1:02 AM 

I guess I can start since i'm the one who's curious:

My music influence comes from my older brother. I grew up listening to and enjoying:

AC/DC
Van Halen
Def Leppard
Guns N Roses
Metallica (alright, let me have it)
U2
Iron Maiden (alright, let me have it again)

As I grew older, I began to form my own musical identity. And because of that I now hold AC/DC as my all time favorite.

The strange thing though is there was one music genre that I had yet to discover that was sitting in my brother's room for many years. It wasn't until a couple of years ago that I finally popped in his Stevie Ray Vaughan best of CD that I found the Blues.

That's the reason I bought a guitar last summer. That's the reason I began listening to BB King, Albert Collins, Albert King, Eric Clapton, John Lee Hooker, Muddy Waters and to a lesser extent Jimmy Hendrix (too many people my age talk about him). This may sound either creepy or pathetic, but i've actually dreamt about playing Crossfire at the Grammy's in front of Stevie's widow (if she's still alive) as a tribute.

So there you have it. Now tell me where I went wrong...my mother always does.

Jimmy


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PostPosted: February 7, 2006 8:12 AM 

"Now tell me where I went wrong"

You waited too long to start playing guitar. Nobody wants to hear great guitar playing anymore. If you can't spin and scratch records, flap your arms around, and babble nonsensically like a f**king retard, you'll never make it in the music business these days.

Trust me. I wasted twenty-seven years of my life learning to be good on the guitar. It's over, dude. start screaming your f**king head off like a total sack of shit and maybe you can perform in front of Kid Suck's mother at the Grammys someday.

However, if you really want to play guitar, forget those greats (who influenced me)... practice strumming open chords with distortion and your strings slightly out of tune, while staring down at your feet. You'll be in front of Saturday Night Live's audience in no time.

Sorry.

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PostPosted: February 7, 2006 12:15 PM 

Lyrics are for suckers. I am a Jazz man myself- Grover Washington, Weather Report, David Sanborn, etc...

Recently discovered an excellent bop sax player called Joshua Redman- awesome stuff!

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PostPosted: February 7, 2006 12:46 PM 

Yev - Buy "8:30" by Weather Report if you don't have it - and on vinyl if you can play it. You sound like a candidate for Return to Forever, too. Later, maybe Mingus, and later still, maybe Ornette Coleman....

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PostPosted: February 7, 2006 12:57 PM 

Jimmy - with respect to rock and roll guitarists, you are correct, there are scant few that are good anymore. With some notable exceptions (though most of them started BEFORE this date), the rock and roll guitarist as a master MUSICIAN, died about 1978, or so. Most of the technically superb guitarists after that followed the likes of Wes Montogmery, Joe Pass, and Tal Farlow and went into jazz - guys like Pat Matheny, Larry Carlton, Les Dudek, Stanley Clark and others. Others still, are doing great stuff in country and bluegrass, though they are little known. Trouble is - doing jazz or bluegrass won't make you much of a living and won't turn you into a teen idol, either. These days, if you have to do it cause you love it, not to make dough.

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PostPosted: February 7, 2006 1:05 PM 

But, to answer part of CJ's Q, my first choice when dropping down in the listening chair most nights these days is late 60's to early-70's Soul (NOT what they mistakenly call Soul or R&B today). Stylistics (if you've never heard Russell Thompkins, Jr. you're missing a treat), Delfonics, Temptations, Marvin Gaye, Spinners, Al Green, Staple Singers, early O'Jays, Stevie. When Soul had that rough urban edge sounding style of instrumentation with buttery, velvety smooth vocals. Specific LP and label recommendations on request! Smile

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PostPosted: February 7, 2006 2:22 PM 

What jazz I've heard I've liked, mostly. I have some Miles Davis and a few CDs from a few others, but except for "Kind of Blue," I almost never listen to any of them. I used to listen to classical music regularly. I have a halfway decent CD collection, but I hardly ever listen to them anymore, either. I don't believe in "background" music. I either give my undivided attention to music or I don't listen.

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PostPosted: February 7, 2006 2:51 PM 

"I either give my undivided attention to music or I don't listen."

This is my approach, most all of the time, which, most all of the time, drives my sons nuts.

KOB is, of course, a classic and often listened to by many for good reason. IMHO, there are other Miles cuts which are better, but that is a matter of taste. The cool and bop era of jazz (and its various encarnations), is just great. Others to consider are Art Pepper, Stan Getz, Jazz Messengers (Art Blakey), Horace Silver, Bill Evans, Dave Brubek, etc. are good choices, all.

Classical is about the only genre for which my collection is not fairly deep - with the exception of INDIAN (the country) classical, of which I have many.

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PostPosted: February 7, 2006 3:20 PM 

JC- I am familiar with Return to Forever (the dream team) ever since Medieval Overture. I know some Mingus but will need to investigate Ornette Coleman...

I don't mind a little classical from time to time but what I cant stomach is this opera music. Confused

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PostPosted: February 7, 2006 5:04 PM 

Who sings?!? You got something to say, say it!

As for Jackie, the only guys you mentioned that I've even heard of are Al Green, Miles Davis, The Temptations and Stevie (if you mean Wonder). That said, combining all the performers you mentioned, I only know the following songs by name:

Take me to the River
Don't Worry, Be Happy
Sexual Healing
Superstitious (thanks only to SRV)
My Cheri Amore

...that's about it. there may be others that i'd recognize if i heard them.

I'm sure though as I get older, i'll find myself listening to Jazz at some point in my live...just not yet.

Jimmy


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PostPosted: February 7, 2006 5:52 PM 

Pat Matheny, Larry Carlton, Russ Freeman.... big fan.....HUGE! Wink

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PostPosted: February 7, 2006 6:03 PM 

Back the truck up. I'm pretty sure rock music died sometime in the late nineties. After being repeatedly stabbed in the heart by MTV, that was what did it. If TRL was a living actual person, I would hire an assasin to get rid of it.

That being said, if anyone can honestly sit there and say Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, etc. were not influential and arguably the holy trinity of all rock that has come since, would be insane. We'd still be listening to the 80's keyboards, Culture Club headlining the Super Bowls, wearing spandex in public, and most likely be killed by the sun from all the hairspray, if someone finally didn't say "enough of this crap, wake up you idiots"

I realize there is probably generation gaps here and all but there is no way that I could have let that slide. And did anyone tell CJ that AC/DC reused the same riff for their entire career? Not that there's anything wrong with that, but you are aware.

And yes rock completely stinks now. You have to sift through the rubble to find anything of value. However good bands still popped up throughout the nineties, Radiohead, Rage Against The Machine (you can put Tom Morello in any band of any era and he would still be amazing), and others.

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PostPosted: February 7, 2006 7:27 PM 

As George would say to Don Mattingly: Go with it 'till it stops workin'. I love AC/DC because they don't try to hard to be "artistic", they just flat out play and have a good time doing it. They're lyrics aren't trying to say too much, which i love. I can't stand whiny little bitches singing about how hard being a teenager is. Just a very blue collar rock band.

If there is any recent rock musician that i'd respect (believe me there aren't many), I'd have to say that I respect Danko Jones. He's not very popular, in fact I've only heard like 2 or 3 of his songs, but he really does a good job of keeping guitar in his rock n roll repertoire (from what i've heard)

One of the best songs i've heard in a while is Seven Nation Army. Haven't heard much else of the White Stripes, but that song is one of the best songs of the last 5 years or so.

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