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Bookman







PostPosted: January 28, 2005 12:47 PM 

Hey Stan: Now that the first three seasons of unedited episodes are out on DVD, why can't we get complete and accurate transcripts of these episodes? If necessary, ask for volunteers, as you did for Curb Your Enthusiasm.

J. Chiles


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PostPosted: January 28, 2005 1:03 PM 

Good idea Bookman. I’ve been thinking along these lines, too. I'll volunteer to do a couple or four. Do I get my choice on which to do? Smile

A question - if we do this, should it be straight dialogue, or with parenthetical scene settings included? I have my druthers but would like to hear what others think. Depending on the consensus, though, I could be forced to say "I'm off the project"!

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PostPosted: January 28, 2005 1:11 PM 

I'd like to see simple, straightforward scene settings, like (Jerry's Apartment), (neighborhood sidewalk), or (Monk's Diner). I'd like NOT to see extraneous matter and commentary. Save these for the "Episodes" forum.

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PostPosted: January 29, 2005 11:20 AM 

Are J. Chiles and I the only ones among us who would like to have new transcripts that are complete and accurate?

Volunteers could get the first two DVD volumes done in short order, and then redo the following seasons as the DVDs come out. We'd all be better off with complete, accurate transcripts.

Anybody? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

J. Chiles


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PostPosted: January 29, 2005 12:34 PM 

It doesn't surprise me, Bookman. Most people are all take and no give. I've grow used to it these days. Many never consider that the pleasure they get being able to flash through sites like thi swear built on the time and toil of someone's actual WORK.

That said, I don't mind beginning on this. If it is just you and me, it will take longer, though. One thing. I need to first hear from Stan that he definitely WILL post what is created. I'm not doing this for nothing. For the most part, I know what the lines are already. I'd do this mostly to save the aggravation of having things misquoted all the time! HA! Smile

O'Brien
Bob Sakamano

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PostPosted: January 29, 2005 5:12 PM 

I would be willing to help. I am always thankful that I can find any Seinfeld quote in a snap. I am not very computer savvy though....so I'd need some assistance if there is anything special I'd need to do. I'll start at the end: Disc 4 of Season 3.

Jimmy


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PostPosted: January 29, 2005 5:42 PM 

Well, Jimmy was kinda waiting to see if Stan would respond first. But yes, Jimmy will do a disc or two. When we get the word from Stan, let's assign who's doing what.

Jimmy thinks, however, that some short, basic, parenthetical discriptions are sometimes necessary... such as (Kramer pulls plug), or ( George leaves angry), etc... as long as they're not, as was said before, opinionated "commentary."

Jimmy


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PostPosted: January 29, 2005 7:25 PM 

Of course, we'd have to figure out a way to avoid the things that cause the little problems. Maybe some rules or something. If anything happened, and we couldn't be friends the way we are now, that would be really bad.

J. Chiles


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PostPosted: January 29, 2005 11:49 PM 

Shouldering all the burden is bad. But, too many is bad, too. Then everybody has their own ideas and nothing gets done. Wink

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PostPosted: January 30, 2005 12:37 AM 

OK, great. This looks promising. I'm going to start a new thread with a more eye-catching title. We need Stan to weigh-in on this subject now.

cousin jeffrey
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PostPosted: January 30, 2005 2:27 PM 

I'd like to help...but my neck....

Seriously though, fellas, as much as i was looking forward to working with Jimmy, Jackie and especially Bookman, i just don't know how i'll be able to fit some time in. Unless you guys don't mind it taking longer than you might expect, then i'll help out with a script or two.

Jimmy


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PostPosted: January 30, 2005 3:58 PM 

What's the hurry? The existing ones will still be there until they're replaced. They're already complete for the most part, they just need an overhaul and a good, cleaning up. Not to mention the outright "mistakes." If you don't have a lot of time, maybe just paste down an existing script, then follow it along with the episode making sure it's right and making any necessary corrections.

For example: Incorrect spelling, punctuation, and word usage such as "your" instead of "you're"..... or "there" instead of "they're" or "their."

Another problem is words being written in comic strip style... like "Y'know" instead of "you know." This type of thing renders the search function useless if one interprets a line different than another. They all need to follow somewhat of a consistent format. Personally, Jimmy thinks the more people involved, the more they will differ... but at the same time, we need more people involved to get them done quicker and easier. Jimmy sees no reason why the average script would take any more than an hour (depending on how much of a mess it is, of course). Eight people could finish both volumes by doing one disc each.

It's one day. Half a day, really. I mean you substract showers and meals, it's like twenty minutes. It'll go by like that.

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PostPosted: January 30, 2005 4:56 PM 

Agreed. There's no hurry. Better to get it right than quickly. I'm a s-l-o-w typist. I'll probably take longer than most people.

Jimmy, you and J. Chiles have pointed out we'll need a standardized format. I'll go along with whatever is decided. Maybe Stan can get feedback from all of us, and then set the groundrules himself.

I'm eager to get started. Maybe the transcripts for the first three seasons aren't too bad, as you say, Jimmy. But once we get into seasons 4-9, I think everyone will see how badly those transcripts have been butchered because the episodes themselves were butchered in reruns, including some of the best exchanges of those years.

J. Chiles


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PostPosted: January 30, 2005 6:47 PM 

Bookman, to save some time, when or if this ball gets rolling, you can cut and paste the existing script into MSWord, or similar, and just fix what needs fixin'. I gotta disagree with Jimmy regarding y'know (which Elaine says a lot) vs. you know vs. ya know. While this may not be the best example, sometimes "words" like this give the flavor of the conversation - impacts on search functions or not.Another example is "whatcha" and "gonna", as in whatcha gonna do? Would we transcribe it as "what are you going to do"? I don't think so. Smile

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PostPosted: January 30, 2005 7:16 PM 

Whether to type "takin'" vs. "taking" might be one of those areas in which Stan makes the call, because Jimmy and J. Chiles make excellent points.

As for cutting and pasting, that sure sounds easier than typing from scratch. I'd have to think about that, though. I'd hate to take an otherwise legitimate shortcut and wind up replacing one inaccurate transcript with another. It might be all too easy to miss things, too easy not to listen carefully to each and every word of the show, if you held a cut-and-pasted botched transcript in your hand while audibly scanning for errors.

Jimmy


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PostPosted: January 30, 2005 9:55 PM 

Well, Jimmy didn't mean to imply that "gonna" or "gotcha" or "ya know" or "talkin" would be wrong. Jimmy agrees with Chiles in capturing the language style. But "Y'know" or G'dy-up are far too obscure and just plain sloppy. Can't think of some of the others right now that Jimmy's seen over time... but there are many of them. As long as "familiar" alternative slang-type words are used (like Chiles' examples) we'll be straight.

Reminds Jimmy of the Wazz-ahhp commercials... that were re-done by white guys saying "What are YOU doing?"

As far as copying and pasting existing scripts. Your concerns crossed Jimmy's mind as well. That won't be Jimmy's approach... but it may be an alternative for those with limited patience who would otherwise do a much poorer job from scratch out of frustration. One thing's for sure... we'd all have to look through them and have a system for documenting and making corrections on any new errors, rather than letting them become lost and forgotten again. Maybe a special thread for addressing errors for either us, or Stan to correct when it would be convenient. Whatevah...



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