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Bruce







PostPosted: April 12, 2004 10:15 PM 

I have to vent (in a George Costanza kind of way).

What is your take on what I am saying below?

When I talk to people who really never got into Seinfeld the way all us real fans did, I hear that George and Kramer, and sometimes, Elaine are just plain darn funny. I agree.

Those same people don't give Jerry much credit as being funny. I have to admit that I also felt this way about Jerry in the first place myself.

However, the more I watch Seinfeld episodes, the I realize that Jerry is just a funny a the other three cast members. He's the facetious one. He's the smart*ss. He's the one who always makes in fun of people when they are talking.

So, what I am really saying is that Jerry Seinfeld wass just as funny as the other 3, but in a more subtle way.

Jerry was not outspoken as much as the other 3 were, but he did crack jokes at people to their face.
Afterall, the real Jerry was the one who started the whole series. He's was the standup comedian. Before Seinfeld, I only say Michael Richards as Malamud in Young Doctors In Love and as Ronald Regan on Fridays in the early 80's.

I read that Julia Louise Dryfuss had a small stint on Saturday Night Live as a regular cast member. None of that matters because no matter how many times I see the real actors, the Seinfeld character that actor played is the real typecast.

So, essence, the real character who receives the least credit is Elaine although she was always hilarious when she shoves people and says "GET OUT!"

What do you think?

shmibson
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PostPosted: April 12, 2004 11:27 PM 

I agree, no one gives Jerry the credit he deserves. Personally, he is my favorite because I just can't get enough of his sarcasm.

rio
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PostPosted: April 13, 2004 12:06 AM 

I can totally relate, Bruce. The first few times I ever watched, before I even got into it, I thought Jerry was just a bad actor and not as funny as the other ones. Now I don't see how he could have possible done a better joke. He is my favorite, and by far the most quotable, in my opinion.

The other thing is... when people I don't like make comments on how much they hate Seinfeld... it makes me like it even more! Cause I know they just don't get it. Even if they say or think that they do... they don't.

rio
Latex Salesman

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PostPosted: April 13, 2004 12:07 AM 

edit: joke = job

t-bone
Bob Sakamano

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PostPosted: April 13, 2004 3:44 AM 

I think Jerry has a damn funny "body language". Just look at him when he is running, the expression in his face is priceless. And his "Alright...!" and "Thats a shame.." are also great.

babu
Bob Sakamano

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PostPosted: April 13, 2004 8:24 AM 

you are right... jerry's humor is much more subtile and thats the way it should be. everyone's humor of the 4 is unique in a way.
if jerry's wanted to be funny in Kramers way he could do so, as we see in "The Chicken Roaster"... a great Performance. But Jerry is funny in his own way!

Gack
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PostPosted: April 13, 2004 8:43 AM 

it's a good point. people who just casually watch 'seinfeld' don't really seem to appreciate jerry. even a lot of my friends tell me how much they hate is stand-up comedy in general (the real jerry's, no less), which i find impossible to accept because i *love* jerry's style. his 'i'm telling you for the last time' is one of the funniest stand-up shows i've ever seen, rivaled only by chris rock's 'bigger and blacker.' but even just on the series, jerry is a laugh-riot. i certainly agree that he is the most quotable. i find his character funnier than either kramer or elaine (though not george, the grandmaster). and you don't have to look any further than the latest amex adverts to see that he's still got the juice.

Jerry: Cycling with you's no fun.
Superman: Why not?
Jerry: It's just not.

cracks me up.

ps: michael richards was also in 'uhf,' alongside weird al yankovich.

J. Chiles


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PostPosted: April 13, 2004 12:33 PM 

Jerry, though funny in his own right, often plays the straight-man as a means to set up George, Kramer, or Elaine. Kinda like Andy Griffith never was considered that funny in his show because he always set up Barney.

Harry Fong
Bob Sakamano

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PostPosted: April 14, 2004 6:35 AM 

i agree with you all that jerry is very funny in his own right, however i'd like to add that i believe larry david to be the real unsung genius. 'curb your enthusiasm' demonstrates that the biting and occasionally caustic humour that comes across in seinfeld is a result of larry's influence. don't you agree?

J. Chiles


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PostPosted: April 14, 2004 11:16 AM 

Yes, but I think Larry David is "sung" very loudly on this site - but maybe not in the general public.

The Trooper
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PostPosted: April 14, 2004 3:22 PM 

Jerry was usually the straight man and the others are funny playing off of him. Thats when he was at his best during the series, imo.

Bruce
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PostPosted: April 15, 2004 10:39 AM 

Another thing I never noticed is that Larry David is all over the Seinfeld series and through all of you people, I realized that he played more cameos than bania, puddy, and mickey all put together.

Little Jerry Seinfeld
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PostPosted: April 15, 2004 5:26 PM 

YOU HUNG UP ON MY NANA?!

YOU TOLD NANA TO DROP DEAD!

no one else could make those lines as funny as they are, besides Jerry.

Jerry & Larry = Rock Hard Abs


From laughing so hard!

Mr. Pennypacker
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PostPosted: April 21, 2004 10:07 AM 

Jerry is my fave character, the more i got into Seinfeld the more i loved him.

Kramer: What they don't like me?
Jerry: I don't like you!

from The Parking Space

IchBinEinSucker
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PostPosted: April 23, 2004 1:04 PM 

I do think that Jerry's acting skills are limited in comparison to Jason, Michael and Julia, but he gets the best lines. His "Even Steven" attitude when Rachel breaks up with him in "The Opposite" just leaves me feeling envious. Either way Jerry is perfect for the part. He plays it just like his stand up act and it's hilarious. BTW - George is my favorite.

oldschool
Bob Sakamano

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PostPosted: April 23, 2004 1:44 PM 

While larry and jerry are funny in their own rights, the reason the show was so successful and so perfect was because of the combination. It was the right things coming together at the right time. It was all the actors, directors, writers all with incredible talent all coming together to make the show what it was.

J. Chiles


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PostPosted: April 23, 2004 3:57 PM 

I fully concur. The casting was absolutely top shelf. Jerry, Elaine, Kramer, and George to be sure, but what of the other re-occuring characters. Newman, Frank (the second), Estelle, Helen, Morty (the second), Jackie, Peterman, Mr. Lippman, Wilhelm, Mr. Thomasoulo, Mr. Pitt, Kreuger. Hard to imagine ANYONE could have played the parts any better. They all DEFINED those roles. That is the mark of not only good acting but, importantly, GREAT CASTING.

Other Walter
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PostPosted: April 23, 2004 8:21 PM 

Even the bit part one timers are great. Think of the wheelchair salesman "That's the Commando 6000-It's fully loaded".
Tommy the toupee guy "You look down and see a fistful of hair in the drain. How'd you like to start your day off with that?"
Shakey the Mohel

jon n
Bob Sakamano

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PostPosted: April 23, 2004 10:23 PM 

Jerry is the glue that holds everything together. Without Jerry, nothing could happen. We saw Kramer, Elaine, and George all try to start their own shows on their own, but it didn't work because Jerry wasn't there.

J. Chiles


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PostPosted: April 23, 2004 10:28 PM 

On the other hand, we've not seen Jerry do a show with the rest of the gang, either. Wink

J. Chiles


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PostPosted: April 23, 2004 10:28 PM 

Or without.. Embarassed

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