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PostPosted: September 27, 2005 11:28 AM 

Have you ever noticed that closed-captioning functionaries--the people who actually type the words--are often ignoramuses?

I was watching a new HBO sitcom, "Extras," last night. It's a BBC co-production, and everybody British. Ricky Gervais--the guy from "The Office"--is the lead actor and writer. Since Gervais is British, on top of which he talks fast, and the dialogue is all-important with this guy, I put the closed-captioning on so I could understand what the hell he's saying.

So, what do I get? "Safe hounds" for "safe hands." "Saul" Mendes instead of Sal. I've got a friggin American typing this, and a bloody ignorant one at that. Who assigned this person to this job? I didn't need help with the language; I needed help with the pronunciation. Couldn't they have brought in a Brit for this job? Because whether I'm deaf or not, they still have to get the words right.

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PostPosted: September 27, 2005 5:23 PM 

It's all run through switch boards in Delhi.

Jimmy
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PostPosted: September 27, 2005 5:39 PM 

Well, if it's British comedy, there's probably a good chance that the written words make far more sense than what they're speaking, anyway.

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PostPosted: September 27, 2005 5:53 PM 

When the Brit-speak is educated and well-enunciated, I have no difficulty following it. But when it's fast and slurred, I don't mind admitting, I miss a lot of the dialogue. When I saw "Gosford Park" in the theater, I didn't catch a lot of the words spoken by the maids and butlers; I had to wait till the movie came out on DVD so I could rent it and read the subtitles.

cousin jeffrey
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PostPosted: September 27, 2005 5:56 PM 

Same thing when black people talk "jive".

Bookman
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PostPosted: September 27, 2005 6:03 PM 

Well, jive, of course, isn't English. You don't need closed-captioning; you need a translation, just like in "Airplane." My beef isn't with the speakers here, it's with the closed-captioners who don't know any more about what the speakers are saying than I do.

Jimmy
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PostPosted: September 27, 2005 6:20 PM 

My beef is with their scripts and sense (or senseless) of humor.

cousin jeffrey
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PostPosted: September 27, 2005 6:31 PM 

senseless of humor?

Bookman
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PostPosted: September 27, 2005 6:41 PM 

I don't "get" all British humor. To this day, I find almost nothing funny about "Monty Python." But then again, I don't "get" a lot of American humor either.

Without making a list, nearly all the blockbuster comedies of the past ten years do nothing for me. On TV, I never "got" "Will & Grace." I don't laugh at "Malcolm in the Middle." I never found "Third Rock From the Sun" funny.

I get "Bevis and Butthead" and "Young Frankenstein" and "Pulp Fiction" and "Fargo" and "The Odd Couple" and "Orgazmo." And I "get" "The Office" and "Extras." To each, his own.

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PostPosted: September 27, 2005 7:18 PM 


the bad c.c. aside, bookman, how was "extras"? i've a feeling that anything gervais touches will turn to gold. or at least a gold bafta.

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PostPosted: September 27, 2005 7:30 PM 

"Extras" is brilliant, in both the American and the British sense of the word. David Brent has reincarnated and become Andy the movie extra. There isn't much difference between the two characters. And with Kate Winslet in the first episode, maybe there'll be frequent, similarly high-profile guest appearances.

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PostPosted: September 27, 2005 7:34 PM 


right on. so that means i only have to wait another, let's say, four or five months for the season to end, then another six or so for the dvd.

looking... forward to it.

i'd have to put david brent on the all-time top three favourite television characters list.

Jimmy
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PostPosted: September 27, 2005 8:48 PM 

Are you in Korea permanently?

cousin jeffrey
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PostPosted: September 27, 2005 9:04 PM 

Yeah, what gives? Who goes to Korea?

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PostPosted: September 27, 2005 9:09 PM 

Gack's a communist. Big, big communist.

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PostPosted: September 27, 2005 9:23 PM 


believe me, there are days when communism doesn't look that bad.

not here permanently. november '03 to november '04, then was home three months, and here again since this past february (is it feb-U-ary or feb-ru-ary? cause i prefer U-ary, and what's with this ru?), until at least the beginning of march.

we'll see where it goes from there.

i could write you a list of a hundred things that annoy me here, but all in all, it's not a bad country at all.

Jimmy
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PostPosted: September 27, 2005 9:35 PM 

I envy communists. You get to wear bland, drab, olive colored clothing all day... capitalists pity you...

Bookman
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PostPosted: September 27, 2005 9:39 PM 

Looks aren't important.

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PostPosted: September 27, 2005 10:52 PM 

The great thing about communism is there's no pressure to be successful. No matter how hard a worker you are, you ain't going anywhere, so why bother? I bet in Communist countries, you never hear of a woman walking out on her husband because he's a deadbeat. Are they at any kind of disadvantage?

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PostPosted: September 27, 2005 11:50 PM 

A contemporary Russian writer, Tatyana Tolstaya (a distant relative of Tolstoy) says Russian men are congenitally lazy, and have been for hundreds of years. I don't know how that works out for families, assuming it does. Tolstaya claims that traditional Russian society is matriarchal, even when the father/husband lives in the house.

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PostPosted: September 28, 2005 3:13 PM 

But what did you think of my bit? That was a good bit, right?

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