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PostPosted: May 1, 2004 6:17 PM 

I downloaded one season and would like to put it on VCD. I tried using roxio DVD builder but ran into a problem. When I add one 35mb episode it registers in the builder as 219mb (which is 1/3 of the CD). Any suggestions. Also, I'm using a regular CD burner not DVD.

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Bob Sakamano

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PostPosted: May 2, 2004 1:20 AM 

VCD is a different format than the episodes you've downloaded. It uses MPEG1 which is largely uncompressed. Episodes will take up more space on a VCD (which is more dependent on video length).

ill advised
Low-Talker

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PostPosted: May 2, 2004 9:25 PM 

So I'd be better of with a DVD burner (which I've been planning on buying)?

Marine Biologist
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PostPosted: May 4, 2004 4:32 PM 

Yes, DVD is the way to go; VCD and SVCD are pretty obsolete these days. Keep in mind though that to create DVD-video you'll need both an MPEG-2 encoder and DVD authoring software (I don't mean DVD writing software like Nero, I mean s/w that will transcode the MPEGs into VOBs and IFOs and create a menu system). Each episode would also have to be re-encoded to MPEG-2 (which will average more than twice the size of the original DivX). I also found that a good number of the HQ episodes posted here have some type of subtle AVI stream format problem that prevent them from converting to MPEG correctly, at least with the encoders that I have. So I had to reprocess them through a video editor before doing the MPEG encoding -- phew Shocked

So don't underestimate the challenge, but you end up being able to fit about 11 or so HQ episodes on each DVD, and you can select them via menus, so it's pretty cool ... Cool

nobody
Bob Sakamano

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PostPosted: May 4, 2004 5:35 PM 

Marine biologist.

I found your reply very interesting,i too intend getting a DVD writer and transfering onto DVD.As i have no idea about this proceedure could you please tell me which software you use to do the various jobs and please tell me a little more about the `subtle AVI stream format problem ` so that i might overcome this when i attempt to do it.

Cheers. Wink

Marine Biologist
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PostPosted: May 5, 2004 2:37 AM 

The 2 MPEG encoders I’ve used are TMPGEnc and Cinema Craft Encoder. The AVI format problem manifests itself as follows. TMPGEnc reports about 3 times as many frames as the AVI really has (most are under 40K frames), then when it gets to the last frame, goes into an infinite loop! CCE, which I normally don’t use anyway, simply reports an AVI stream error and craps out. The solution is to read the problem AVI into a video editor (such as Video Edit Magic) and output it again as another AVI using a DivX encoder or whatever encoder you want. Keep the quality settings high; this is just an intermediate file for the MPEG encoder so you don’t care if gets big. One tip … use PCM, and not MP3, for the audio track …other audio compressors may work too, but with MP3 I was going nuts with audio and video getting gradually out of sync. Strangely, the reprocessed AVI itself was OK but the sync problems happened when converting to MPEG. Using PCM, the AVI converted fine. This may or may not be an issue specific to Video Edit Magic and/or TMPGenc.

This whole process, as I said before, was necessary on roughly half of the HQ’s that I’ve downloaded so far; the others don’t need any reprocessing and can convert to MPEG-2 directly.

As for DVD authoring software, there’s no end of choices; some creative Googling should turn up a lot of them, I think there’s even freeware out there.

So the overall process is: (1) convert AVI to MPEG-2, (2) create a video-DVD layout with a DVD authoring package, and (3) burn the video DVD either directly with the package or with something like Nero 6.

Marine Biologist
Bob Sakamano

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PostPosted: May 5, 2004 3:22 AM 

I should point out in the interest of completeness that if you do end up getting Nero 6 for general DVD burning, the suite comes with a DVD authoring tool called NeroVision Express. I've never used it however and can't comment on it. So, although there is a big distinction between DVD "writing" software and DVD "authoring" software, a full-function suite like Nero 6 does support both.

nobody
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PostPosted: May 5, 2004 6:57 AM 

Wow,thanks Marine.

Think you have saved me a lot of pitfalls and blank DVDR`s with your great explanation.Heres me being naive thinking any supplied software (with a DVD writer) would do all i needed.Well thank you so much again ,i`m going to cut copy and paste what you wrote to guide me when i do get a DVD writer.

Cheers. Wink

ill advised
Low-Talker

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PostPosted: May 7, 2004 3:40 AM 

yes, thanks alot for that marine. So long as I know what I'm up against. lol I'll definately be using your posts here as a reference until I get the process down.

FYI, I just got a burner yesterday, and it did come with Nero. Also, my vidcap device came with both avi-mpeg conversion and editing software so it looks like I'll finally have an excuse to use some of this stuff. lol

"So don't underestimate the challenge, but you end up being able to fit about 11 or so HQ episodes on each DVD, and you can select them via menus, so it's pretty cool ..."

I hear you, I figure it'll be time consuming but I honestly don't mind. Still have all my vhs tapes but the quality is, well, some of the tapes are ten years old. I want everything to be as organized as possible.

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PostPosted: May 31, 2004 3:45 AM 

I use Nero 6 Ultra w/ Nerovison2. Converts AVI to VCD on the fly too. Works for me...

Jim
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PostPosted: May 31, 2004 9:47 PM 

personally I would just buy a DivX avi player which can be picked up for less than £100 here in the UK (I have a Kiss DivX avi player bought off Amazon.co.uk)

With this neat device it plays avi files downloaded straight off the internet .. no need to faff around converting to mpg/VCDs .. just burn straight to disc (CD/DVD) and then it plays the avi ... marvellous!



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