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PostPosted: March 20, 2005 6:35 PM 

I read on

that the Seinfeld pilot "famously earned a weak rating" from test audiences... Anyone have more information if it's that famous?

I downloaded a file of the pilot "Good news, bad news. 5 of 10" today. Don't know what the 5 of 10 would stand for. Is there more than a 20 minute episode? It says on this site Kramer is referred to as Kessler... When was that??

It is a complete episode though: starts and ends with stand-up, George and Jerry talking in the diner, some confusion over Jerry's girlfriend who turns out to be engaged already, and a weird undeveloped Kramer looking for meat.


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PostPosted: March 20, 2005 6:52 PM 

Yeah, that was an awkward, but still "good" episode. Kramer reminds Jimmy of a Christopher Lloyd-type character in that one. If Jimmy's not mistaken, Larry David chose the name Kessler to avoid legal conflicts with his friend Kenny Kramer, but Jimmy could be wrong there. There's a lot of good info about that episode on the Volume 1 DVD.

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PostPosted: March 20, 2005 6:53 PM 

I do know that the rating was so low they waited about a year to make another episode. The seconde episode was filmed in 1990. NBC stuck with the show but as you know they only got a 5 episode comentment for the first season. The president of NBC used the money set aside for specials and used that for the first very short season.

"It says on this site Kramer is referred to as Kessler... When was that??"
Alot of people miss that part. I have told people that too and they did not believe me. I had to pull out my dvd's and show them. It is right after "Kramer" says, "The mets really blew it tonight." Jerry than says somthing like Oh Kessler, it's a tape. I avoided human contatct all day to watch this. That is when "Kramer" asked for some meat. The reason they used Kessler is they did not have an answer yet from Kenny Kramer (the model for Kramer on tv) to use his name. Just for fun try

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