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PostPosted: May 30, 2005 10:44 AM 

On many of the commentaries they mention actors that are 'stand-ins' for the cast. My question is, what is a stand-in, and what do they do? Are they there to practice with other cast members when someone is unavailable?

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PostPosted: May 30, 2005 10:50 AM 

They are used for lighting checks, camera positioning, focusing, etc. So that the Delicate Genuises can go to their dressing rooms and relax.

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PostPosted: May 30, 2005 10:50 AM 

They STAND IN the scene (or sit, or lie, or kneel, as the situation dictates) as placeholders for the regulars. Have you not seen Kramer and Mickey's fine work in this regard?!!!!

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PostPosted: May 30, 2005 10:53 AM 

Sidling Jimmy struck me down.

Is it just me, or am I just not hearing mention of stand-ins in the commentaries? Oh, I hear a lot of mention about EXTRAS, but stand-ins? Where they go?

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PostPosted: May 30, 2005 11:06 AM 

Only heard stand-in mentioned one time. Have no idea what disc it was. Yes, It's usually EXTRAS that we hear about.

Jimmy


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PostPosted: May 30, 2005 11:07 AM 

Believe it was Jerry's stand-in that was mentioned. But not 100% on that.

Jimmy


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PostPosted: May 30, 2005 11:10 AM 

Shouldn't be hard to find... it was Julia that said it. She's in only, what?... two comentaries, maybe three?

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PostPosted: May 30, 2005 11:12 AM 

Jimmy really hopes he's not full of shit on this...

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PostPosted: May 30, 2005 12:11 PM 

They mention stand-ins in the commentary for whatever episode has them auditioning people for "Jerry". Tom Cherones and one of the writers are doing great commentary on that one...When Kramer is running from building to building looking for a bathroom, they mention that it's actually a stand-in running around on the street. And supposedly the guy is only about 5'10", but does a great Kramer.

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PostPosted: May 30, 2005 12:15 PM 

Yes, you are correct, sir. Doesn't Julia mention a Jerry stand-in somewhere? He was off in the distance and Julia said "that's Jerry's stand-in way back there," or something to that effect.

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PostPosted: May 30, 2005 12:17 PM 

Was she preganant at the time?

Jimmy


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PostPosted: May 30, 2005 12:22 PM 

Actually, to get technical... The little Kramer dude was a "double," not a stand-in. Stand-ins aren't shot on camera. But Jimmy's not saying you're wrong and that they didn't in fact, say the words "stand-in." Just wanted to clear that up. If they used the term "stand-in," they were incorrect with their wording.

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PostPosted: May 30, 2005 12:25 PM 

Gid, gid, giddy!

Gendison
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PostPosted: May 30, 2005 12:26 PM 

You might be right...that I'm wrong. They very well might have said "double". But, either way, you're right that a stnd-in and a double aren't the same.
How 'bout that Kim Novak!

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PostPosted: May 30, 2005 12:32 PM 

In future commentaries (If they're not already finished with them), Jason and Michael should go on and on about whether or not they were constipated that day... and how they can't believe their pants and shirts clashed with one another. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: May 30, 2005 12:39 PM 

Personally, for the price we're paying for the DVD's, it's actually insulting that this is the kind of commentary the cast members are providing. It actually leaves me a little bitter and even sour towards the 3 supporting actors. I hope they either don't do any more commentaries and leave it to people who actually have their heart in it, like Larry Charles or Tom Cherones...Or have them watch the episodes and TRY to remember something interesting about the very tihng that made them multi-millionaires.

scott
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PostPosted: May 30, 2005 1:05 PM 

I agree with Gendison, I just listened to a commentary by the 3 supporting actors, on a season 4 disc, and they act like the really dont want to be doing it, they cant remember much at all, and the comments that they do make arent funny or interesting. I cant believe that they would be bitter about this show, it made them rich, and was for sure the best project they'll ever be involved with. They were very good in their parts, but the show could have been very good with other actors - the concept, the great writing, and jerry seinfeld made the show in my opinion. The other 3 should be gratefull to have been part of this. Just look at what any of them have done since seinfeld, it was a group effort, and bigger than any 1 person (except maybe jerry and larry). Its kind of disappointing.

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PostPosted: May 30, 2005 1:43 PM 

Well said, Scott. Think it's difficult for extreme Seinfeld fans here to realize that even though the actors chosen where brilliant and exceptional, the show could've succeeded with others in their place. It's hard for us to imagine or accept, but it's a reality.

Jimmy loves hearing Jerry laugh during his commentaries, but that's basically all he does. It's disappointing, but perhaps we should just take the viewpoint that it's better than nothing. It could be worse.... we could be stuck with Friends or Home Improvement as the most successful sitcoms of all time. Let's take what we've been given and be grateful. Maybe they'll get wind of this, either from here, or elsewhere, and put forth a better effort in future DVDs. It's still early, if, like Jimmy said, they haven't finished everything already.

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PostPosted: May 30, 2005 1:59 PM 

Well, the genius behind the show is in the writers, it's only natural that writers like Larry Charles are the only ones who can come up with anything meaningful to say. But Tom Cherones definetely surprised me. Melhman to was great in the Implant.

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PostPosted: May 30, 2005 2:22 PM 

Yeah, look at Jason A's new show, I dont even know what it's called. He kind of does a 'George lite', but it isn't even in the same league as Seinfeld. He was great in Seinfeld because of the character and the writing primarily, and because of his acting skill secondarily.

I don't mean to put down any of the actors on Seinfeld, I love them all, but to have an attitude about the show, or think that any of them were responsible alone for its success is ridiculous. Have any of the supporting actors done anything successfull since Seinfeld? Like I said before, it was a group effort and they should be thankfull that they were part of this classic show.

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PostPosted: May 30, 2005 4:18 PM 

Never heard any of them claiming to be soley responsible for the success of the show. The bad commentaries are just that, bad commentaries. Wouldn't agree that it means they're ungrateful, or arrogant about thier Seinfeld careers. People are always telling Jimmy to reunite the old band back together again... but just because they miss us doesn't mean Jimmy or anyone else from the band should miss it. It was hard work and wasn't the same for us busting our asses all night as it was for them to sit, relax, drink, watch, and listen. Just as Seinfeld is far more entertaining for us than it was for them to watch.

It's over... and it's never going to be as exciting listening to your own music or watching your own show as it is for your fans.

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