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Jeff Miller







PostPosted: January 26, 2006 8:33 AM 

I finally got around to finishing the book, " The Real Seinfeld" where Mike Costanza, the guy who's adventures were the basis for the character George Costanza on Seinfeld.

The book is very complimentary of Jerry except when it came to compensating Mike Costanza for all the things they borrowed to make George real. In the early part of the shows' run, George was more like Mike, while later on Larry David fused his neurosis and negativity to give us all the George that we knew we all came to know.

David's insistence that the parallels stop at the name of "Costanza" are stark lies if you consider how close Mike Costanza is to george in terms of many of his adventures.

So, yes, Larry David is a liar and Jerry should be ashamed for not having paid some royalties to one of his best friends who helped Jerry along the way.

Gendison
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PostPosted: January 26, 2006 8:56 AM 

Bullshit. Mike Costanza's a liar and an opportunist and he's full of crap. This has been discussed here many times, and it's obvious that the only thing Larry and Jerry took was his last name. "The Costanza's" are based on the David's.

By the way, does your "book" mention anything about the fact that Costanza's lawsuit got thrown out of court before it even got to court??? I didn't think so. You know, there's nothing more dangerous than someone who hears (or reads) one side of a story and then goes around telling people "facts" based on their very limited knowledge of the whole story.

So tell you what. You take your toilet book out of here and I won't jump over the counter and punch you in the brain.

Jeff Miller
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PostPosted: January 26, 2006 10:10 AM 

Just because your love for Larry David extends beyond normal bounds of fandom, doesn't mean that people who talk about a book and the background of the story are wrong.

The only thing you can punch is your ability to demonstrate stupidity at its' highest level.

You say Mike is full of crap but don't say what part of his book is full of crap? So everything is a lie, incliding the stuff the Jerry has said is true? Get your story straight before you open your mouth.

As for the subject, yes, I've seen some rabid suckers like you who worship Larry and Jerry to the point of the ridiculous that they are willing to take the word of these guys no matter how obvious the facts countering their their claim may be. If you have info other than the "word" of Jerry and Larry and others who have made money on Seinfeld, feel free to post it. Otherwise don't waste time telling us what Larry Daivid told you what to say. Either you don't care to provide the info, can't provide the info, or assume everyone buys David's story about him being the only inspiration (other than the name) for the character of Costanza. Suckers like you live their whole life believing what lying Hollywood multi-millionaires tell them.

All I did was read the book and relate info that Jerry himself did not, for the most part, did not deny. Yes, he denied that Costanza was entirely based on Mike (which Mike makes clear in his book as being true). Larry David, a failed comedy writer on "Friday's" and "SNL" took a real-life person and warped the person as a character till that character resembled more Larry David than Mike Costanza. But the situations that Mike went through were real according to Jerry and Mike.

As for the lawsuit, the book was written BEFORE the lawsuit so obviously only a moron would think that this info could be added to the book. As for the case itself, check out: http://www.fwrv.com/articles/artmir0101.htm. One reason it got thrown out is that it was past the statute of limitations, which will automatically end a case right there and then no matter how solid the case is. Plus, under the laws of NY, "Because "Seinfeld" is a fictional comedic presentation, it too does not fall within the scope of trade or advertising." So Mike could not sue under the statutues he was depending on. If you actually took the time to read the case, you'll find that it was thrown out for reasons other than what you think for which it was thrown out. Of course, facts are not important to someone like you. Only what Larry David tells you to believe.

And calling Mike an "opportunist" is as stupid as calling Kenny Kramer an "opportunist" for starting a "reality tour" based on his brush with Larry David many years earlier. Pathetic.

Next time, do your homework, keep an open-mind (if that's at all possible for you) read something beyond what guys who have a financial stake in keeping Mike out of the financial loop tell you is the truth and maybe you won't seem the ass-kissing lackey that you appear to be.

Gendison
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PostPosted: January 26, 2006 11:17 AM 

I stopped reading hakf-way through because there's nothing more boring than someone who has nothing to back up anything he says. I am the last person anyone can accuse of being a fan worshipper, and anyone here who has ever heard me comment on what I think Of Julia and some other cast members is proof of that.
So once again, you farting out of your mouth and have absolutely nothing to back up YOUR OBSESSION with this Mike loser.
So you read one book and then call yourslef informed on the subject. Mike Costanza is a freaking leach and people like you just perpetuate things like frivolous law suits by believing everything you read.
The costanza's are based on Larry David's parents and that's all there is to it.
You want to follow a blood sucking parasite, then it shows your lack of intelligence.
The case got thrown out. Case closed.

NEXT!

cousin jeffrey
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PostPosted: January 26, 2006 11:26 AM 

Ouch.

I'm not going to risk getting shot down like my buddy Gendison, but I will say this: I don't know enough about Mike Costanza and his experiences, but let's not lose sight of the fact that writing is what made this show funny, regardless of who characters are based on. The real Mike Costanza may have had some interesting quirks, but I doubt he'd be that funny if we were able to watch him live his life. The main reason George was a great character was because of the writing and Jason Alexander. And by writing, I don't necessarily mean the plot, I mean the dialogue. As for royalties, you can argue, based on the legal system, that he's entitled to some (if what you say is true), but if this is the case, then I have an issue with the legal system.

It's like a guy who slips on the sidewalk, then sues the city. Basically he's trying to cash in on something he'd otherwise have no opportunity to do if he never knew Jerry Seinfeld. It's like the lottery. Did Mike Costanza do anything other than live is life? And for that, you say he deserves money? I'd disagree with that. But again, like I said, the "legal" system allows this.

I'm Cousin Jeffrey. And I support this message.

cousin jeffrey
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PostPosted: January 26, 2006 11:28 AM 

(My last post was supposed to come before Gendison's)

Gendison
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PostPosted: January 26, 2006 11:30 AM 

Hehe...I just read a little more of your dribble.

Keep an open mind? This idiot reads one book, bases all his feeble-brained opinions on one book and then he's chlenging me to keep an open mind. That's peculiar.

Hey, brainless. When someone makes an accusation, it's up to the ACCUUSER to prove it. If I accused you af being a spineless idiot who believes everything he reads without researching, it would be up to ME to prove it, not up to YOU to disprove it. (Of course, I would have no problem in this case, because it's plain to see that you have the brains of a dead snail).
So Larry, Jerry or anyone doesn't have to prove anything...It's up to Parasite Costanza to prove it...and...and...and...case closed.

As far as comparing Kenny Banya (who does undisputedly have a character based on him on the show) and Slimeball Costanza, that makes so little sense that I think you just proved that IQ's really can hit single digits.
Pretty sad.

J. Chiles


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PostPosted: January 26, 2006 11:32 AM 

Other Jeffy sez:

"You say Mike is full of crap but don't say what part of his book is full of crap?"

The crap parts.

Gendison
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PostPosted: January 26, 2006 11:32 AM 

(My post was supposed to be before CJ's)

Jeff Miller
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PostPosted: January 26, 2006 11:50 AM 

ok i am an idiot Crying or Very Sad I was wrong i don't know my elbow from my asshole. Also Gendison do you want to have sex? I will let you choose if you want to be pitcher or catcher. Think about it

J. Chiles


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PostPosted: January 26, 2006 11:52 AM 

Jeff, I bet your rootin' for him to choose pitcher.

Tanya
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PostPosted: January 26, 2006 2:53 PM 

I wonder if Mike wanted to be a ventriloquist, growing up??? Looks like someone is using his voice....

Bookman
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PostPosted: January 26, 2006 3:37 PM 

Anybody who has watched all 9 seasons of Seinfeld and all 5 seasons of Curb Your Enthusiasm knows, without having to read a book, that George Costanza is Larry David and Larry is George.

J. Chiles


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PostPosted: January 26, 2006 3:44 PM 

Anyone else is just a aunt.

Jeff Miller
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PostPosted: January 26, 2006 10:10 PM 

What a surprise!!

A group of morons and worms who will believe anything somebody with a few million dollars in the bank will say. And, 4,200 posts, Chiles? You and your useless aunt need help.

Gendison, you are the top of the morons who need to be shown the obvious. The book was only one source. Yes, it wasn't particularly thrilling but if the words were too hard for you, the pictures should have explained to you a few things. But to a bunch of pitchers and catchers, what else can or should be expected? Other than your enjoyment of pedophilia and being Larry David's lap-dog, do you have anything else that you can't already brag about?

I guess all the pictures of Jerry and Mike are all frauds. In fact, they don't even know each other. Mike was never on the show. None of the cast members ever met Mike. Jerry never knew anyone with the first name of "Mike". Poland invaded Germany and that's how WWII really started. Jackass.

Larry David and Jerry refused to give the rest of the cast royalties for their work and expected them to do work on the DVD's for free. Two cheap bastards who made a great show but that doesn't change the fact that they are two cheap bastards and you're a sniveling weasel.

I could go on but you know that you're too stupid to live but only do so for your next rectal exam.

Happy Festivus, but that aluminum pole hanging out your ass is not going to impress Larry David enough to get him to invite you to his house. And stop following his children, you sick pervert.

J. Chiles


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PostPosted: January 26, 2006 10:17 PM 

I'm hurt.

Bosco
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PostPosted: January 27, 2006 12:13 AM 

Can I be the King of the morons or is that already taken?

I do not mind being Larry's lapdog, as long as we are right and you are wrong then hey, I AM THE KING OF THE MORONS!

Tanya
Bob Sakamano

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PostPosted: January 27, 2006 10:08 AM 

You are ALL winners!!!

Jeff Miller
Bob Sakamano

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PostPosted: January 27, 2006 12:21 PM 

Now if you will excuse me, I am going to shoot myself in the head. I also am going to find a donkeky and fuck the shit out of it. Thanks for your time.

J. Chiles


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PostPosted: January 27, 2006 12:27 PM 

Do the first thing, first. After that, and listen carefully now...I'll owe you one!

Anonymous
Bob Sakamano

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PostPosted: January 27, 2006 2:20 PM 

That Jackie. He’s incorrigible

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