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PostPosted: July 21, 2003 3:55 PM 

gs: Lee Garlington (Claire) Pamela Brull (Laura)

A girl Jerry met on the road wants to stay with him when she comes to New York. George thinks that she is just using Jerry as contingency plan. Hoffman (Kramer) comes by to borrow a couple of pieces of meat. The girl calls and asks Jerry if she can stay at his apartment for the night, when she arrives she asks to stay for another night. Jerry is disappointed when everything is going his way until he finds out she is engaged.

b: 05-Jul-89 pc: 101 w: Larry David & Jerry Seinfeld d: Art Wolff

NOTE: In this episode, Jerry refers to Kramer as Kessler, because we later learn in "The Betrayal" this was the name on the buzzer for Kramer's apartment. This also discounts the fact that Kramer has sublet the apartment from Paul Buchman from Mad About You in an episode of that series that aired after "The Virgin." I suppose that Buchman could have sublet the apartment to someone named Kessler before Kramer had moved in. As strange as Kramer can be, perhaps he thought it best to not let anyone know he lived there and never changed the name.
In the first scene of this episode, Jerry comments George about the button on his shirt. He repeats this same comment in the last scene of the last episode! [Editor's Note: Yes, as I mention in the description of the final episode.]
In this episode, the coffee shop Jerry and George go to is not Monk's. The exterior shot reads "Pete's".
In the TV Guide entry for this episode, his character is credited as Hoffman. I assume that this is the way it appeared in the script somewhere along the way. There were probably a number of name changes for this character, while Kenny Kramer was deciding whether or not his name could be used.
In this episode, Kramer/Kessler's apartment door is not there. In its place is a picture. Also, Kramer/Kessler has a dog in this episode.
Even in the pilot episode, there is a Superman reference. When Jerry sits down to watch TV, he is wearing a bright blue pair of sweat pants, and a bright red sweatshirt.
Didn't Kramer/Kessler also knock on Jerry's door in this episode?
Check out Jerry's apartment in this episode! It's WAY different then it is in the other episodes! The walls are yellow, the kitchen cabinets are brown and are EMPTY! In the other episodes, the walls and cabinets are blue and the cabinets are filled with kitchen stuff. Another thing I should point out is Jerry has NO bedroom! In this episode all we see is a living room and a bathroom. In the other shows, Jerry has a bedroom and that and the bathroom are connected by a hallway which was also not present in the first episode. (Brandon)

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Bob Sakamano

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PostPosted: October 1, 2003 11:16 PM 

I wonder why in the opening credits of this episode ("The Seinfeld Chronicles") Lee Garlington is assumed the role of a regularly returning cast member. Why did they drop her in later episodes? She would have been a great element in Monk's, along with Ruth and Monk himself. Oh, well.

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PostPosted: October 25, 2003 3:59 AM 

Also, Jerry notes, "If this were my father he would have to have a cigarette in his mouth the entire time" Morty was never seen smoking, nor was it ever mentioned.

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PostPosted: November 27, 2003 7:08 AM 

I think I read somewhere that they decided to use Elaine as the chief female character rather than the waitress. The delay in getting Elaine into the series is mirrored in the episodes where George and Jerry are writing the TV show and don't include her character in the pilot.

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PostPosted: December 10, 2003 12:56 AM 

When Jerry insists on cleaning his bathroom before the girl arrives, George says, "In a situation like this, never do what your instinct tells you. Always do the opposite."

Jerry asks him, "This is how you operate?"

and George responds, "I wish."

This is foreshadowing of "The Opposite."

Dan
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PostPosted: December 10, 2003 1:37 AM 

Also, at the beginning of the episode when Jerry and George are at the coffee shop, Jerry is drinking caffeinated coffee and George is adamant about getting decaf.

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PostPosted: December 10, 2003 8:30 AM 

Yeah, I noticed that opposite comment by George too. The episode was on last night and that's the first time I connected that.

Danielle
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PostPosted: December 28, 2003 3:26 AM 

Does ANYONE have a copy of this episode on tape? My boyfriend would LOVE this! E-MAIL at DKallbrier@aol.com if you do!!!

vulva
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PostPosted: January 30, 2004 9:24 AM 

There's a video floating around on bittorrent. though named as "seinfeld.00x00.pilot.good.new.bad.news.pdtv.xvid.avi"
I assume whoever ripped this didn't know the episode's title and I can't find any episode by that name on your guide.
anyway, could this really be the pilot episode?.
I guess I'll know soon.

Mike
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PostPosted: February 2, 2004 7:08 PM 

Some sites call the first episode good news, bad news.

Timmy
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PostPosted: February 16, 2004 12:31 PM 

The comment about the caffeine is interesting becasue we later learn from george that jerry never drinks anythign with caffeine in it. Elaine mentions when he drinks something with caffeine he gets all hyper. not so in the first episode.

slippery pete
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PostPosted: February 24, 2004 12:47 PM 

Stan, i watched a Seinfeld last night that was a part of the Chronicles i'm guessing. It was with the lady staying at jerry's house but i didn't see kramers door and so forth. is there different shows of the chronicles or just one episode.

Timmy
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PostPosted: February 27, 2004 12:42 PM 

Jerry's apartment looked so weird, with the back of the couch facing the door. I'm glad they changed it, it was annoying. Also, the hallway is different color. I dont remember seeing the 5A his door, but I might have not been paying attention.

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Bob Sakamano

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PostPosted: May 25, 2004 2:15 PM 

passer-by, maybe initially Jerry and George weren't going to include Elaine in "The Pilot", but her character is definately there after Elaine convinces Russell to allow "Jerry" to continue...

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PostPosted: July 19, 2004 4:13 AM 

Did you ever notice that when it first shows Jerry's apartment, he's wearing red pants and a blue shirt (superman colors), while eating cereal and watching the Met game? It looks like they were dropping subtle characterizations to Jerry's personality.

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PostPosted: August 3, 2004 2:42 AM 

It is obvious that Elaine was desparately needed after watching the first Seinfeld episode. It seems like there is a missing link when I watch this. There is not enough happening in the episode with Elaine absent. It was a smart idea on the show's part to add her to the cast.

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PostPosted: August 3, 2004 10:06 AM 

On my pc its called Good news, Bad news

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PostPosted: August 3, 2004 11:25 AM 

Sorta funny, too, how in the first episode Jerry is painted rather clueless about women with GEORGE the authority.

Also, is this the only episode where Kramer is supposed to have a dog. Or was that just a stray? Smile

Finally, and this is really a small item, Kramer seems to just partially tear out whatever it is he finds of interest in Jerry's magazine, but when Jerry gives him the snake-eye the article is fully removed and in Kramer's hand when the camera returns to him............

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PostPosted: August 3, 2004 10:01 PM 

When was this episode originally created?

Gendison
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PostPosted: August 4, 2004 4:54 AM 

It's the first episode.

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PostPosted: August 4, 2004 10:07 AM 

It was shown in the summer of 1989.

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