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Harry Fong

PostPosted: June 13, 2005 11:58 PM 

Now that you've seen the actors in all the DVD extras, who is your least favourite of the 4 ? I'm going for Jason Alexander. He relates stories of several hissy fits that he threw when things on set didn't go his way. Although he's a very talented comic performer, his ego seems to far outweigh that talent.
Michael Richards runs a close second.

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Vile Weed

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PostPosted: June 14, 2005 9:17 AM 

I don't know, seems like a good thing that Jason would be man enough to bring up all the times he threw a hissy fit and admit that he was wrong in doing so. Just about everytime he admitted thinking the show was taking a step in the wrong direction, he followed it up with something along the lines of "Yeah, listen to Jason. Because I know how to run a sitcom." Or "Wrong as usual."

Michael did seem to take the show a little too serious at the time, but if that's his method, then who are we to argue. He was a genius and most geniuses are a little off the wall. The only issue i would have with michael was his concern about wayne knight becoming like a partner in crime. But again, he admitted being a little egotistical at the time.

J. Chiles

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PostPosted: June 14, 2005 9:56 AM 

I agree with Cousin Vinny (I mean Jeffrey - a Marisa Tomei brain lock this morning) for bascially the reason he mentions. Jerry, too, while not as detailed in memory as, say, Larry Charles, has a good knowledge of the hows and whys of the show - after all it was his baby, baby. Julia, though, comes off as something of a mercenary space cadet. Was it really her that was IN the show? Something tells me that she was in it mainly for the paycheck and has no real appreciation for the show - then or now. Also, her "I didn't like me in that scene" schtick seems like begging for a "No, Julia, you were just super". A delicate genius, perhaps. Well, maybe just delicate. That said, I thought she was great in the show - just my least favorite and, IMHO, easiest to replace - as Elaine or Julia.

Jay Reimenschneider

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PostPosted: June 14, 2005 11:32 AM 

This is an interesting discussion, actually, because I was also let down by all the inside looks and commentary. Watching the episodes over the years always gave me the impression that it was a team creation. It is clear now that Larry and Jerry had everything to do with the show's success while the other three were along for the ride. I don't take anything away from their talent and their performances, but I couldn't believe how distant and uninvolved their memory of the show was.
Further, the commentary with Julia, Michael and Jason is obnoxious. "Oh Michael, you're brilliant here. Oh look at you!" How about the rant about the "extras" in the subway episode, or how "brilliant" the actress was playing susan's mother? It gives you a look into the Hollywood mentality if you ask me.

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PostPosted: June 14, 2005 11:35 AM 

I'm with jeffrey.

And I'll remind people that Julia, Jason, and Michael went into this DVD project reluctantly, with hurt feelings about the money. Not that that's any excuse to be lax or unprofessional. The show must go on. But Jerry and Larry had come away from the TV run with hundreds of millions of dollars apiece; stood to make untold millions more off the DVDs; and the other three thought they were getting gypped. Reasonable people can disagree over whether Jason, Julia, and Michael had a valid point and whether any of us would've behaved differently if we'd been in their places. But it would be human, however unprofessional, for this dispute to have influenced their enthusiasm to work on the DVDs.

And so I'm going to separate what I think of them as people and pros-when-the-going-gets-tough, on the one hand, from what I think of their Seinfeld characterizations on the other. On that basis, George Costanza ranks in my top 5 all-time TV second bananas, and Jason has to get most, if not all, of the credit. I don't know if I have a least favorite. But if I did, it wouldn't be Jason.

Harry Fong

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PostPosted: June 14, 2005 4:49 PM 

Well I don't want to be too harsh on Jason Alexander, it's just that to me he comes across as not very likeable. I give him credit for Cousin Jeffery's point about him admitting to his little on stage fits but at the same time he did them, seemingly more because of how he'd personally look than because of the character.
I guess it comes down to performers whether they be singers, actors or whatever. The more you learn about them, generally the less likeable they are. There's plenty of performers who I love that were/are horrible people.
As for Michael Richards, I recall J. Chiles once posting on this site a reply saying "Don't confuse Michael Richards with Kramer, they're not the same person" or something like that.

J. Chiles

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PostPosted: June 14, 2005 6:17 PM 

And, it is true. While not offering a value judgement in this regard, Michael Richards is a rather high degree Mason - ceratinly not a Krameresque attribute.

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PostPosted: June 14, 2005 6:27 PM 

Sorry, Jackie for those of us not familiar with the term, a Mason is...what? (seriously) I'm guessing it's just a fancy term for a very professional, serious guy.

Harry Fong

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PostPosted: June 14, 2005 6:44 PM 

Mason's are a men only sect that involves lots of arcane rituals. They belong to Masonic Lodges. I guess they're a bit like Rotary or Shriner's only with a slightly sinister edge.


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PostPosted: June 14, 2005 8:45 PM 

Jason basically called every "undecided" voter during the 2004 election, a moron... and that they were even more ignorant than asshole's supporters...

God bless Jason for telling it like it was.

Bob Sakamano

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PostPosted: June 14, 2005 9:53 PM 


Jackie Chiles, you really offended me with what you said on Julia, I can't even believe that you said that she was in there just for the paycheck.

I think they are all great, nothing wrong in them, maybe personnaly, but what is shown in the extras made me like them even more.

This is probably the worst thread I have seen, i can't even believe that you people are saying these awfull things on the actors when you don't even know them and just go by some comments they did.

Harry Fong

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PostPosted: June 14, 2005 9:59 PM 

You know DRS, there are some really good therapists around these days who could help you deal with your problems.

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PostPosted: June 14, 2005 10:08 PM 

Who are you? That's not you quilt.

Seriously though, i like the passion, DRS. But there's not a lot of bad stuff being written in this thread. Most of us are being pretty supportive of the gang, except for Jackie. There's no call for that and he should be ashamed of himself. It was lewd, lascivious, OUTRAGEOUS!

J. Chiles

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PostPosted: June 14, 2005 10:39 PM 

C'mon CJ, I only was critical of Julia for her commentaries, which I though was what Harry was asking.

For the rest, I did say that I thought Julia was great in the show, itself. Bookman made a good point about there possibly being bittahness about money. To me, Larry David and Jerry DESERVE the most, as writers and CREATORS of the show. That said, they ALL are/were grossly overpaid and have ALL Made enough to last them several lifetimes. It just seemed to me that Elaine did the commentaries reluctantly and probably JUST for the money, and it shows. She hardly remembers much of what went on and offers little, if any insight. Seems much of the time that she didn't really care (though she cared about her parking spot) Wink She was very similar in her reactions at the time about her performances on SNL and her relations with cast members. Let's just say she isn't known for always being the sweetest cherry in the bowl - ON A PERSONAL LEVEL.

I thought Jason put a lot of thought into his commentaries and was honest, almost to a fault. Jerry had some good comments and perhaps more importantly, did not take things too seriously and when there was nothing to "read between the lines", he said so. Michael was funny and did a decent job of emphasizing that "Kramer" was a CHARACTER and how "he" evolved.

I love the show as always, and my enjoyment of the show is not lessened because I did not enjoy Julia's comments. OTOH, this enjoyment does not mean I must have "blind loyalty" to the characters, the actors, or whoever no matter what. I was just trying to answer Harry's inquiry honestly.

DRS, if you were offended, get over it, man.

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PostPosted: June 14, 2005 11:05 PM 

Great, Great post, Jackie, if i may say so. I almost read the whole thing.

They should really have a sarcasm button on this site. Because i wasn't serious. I just read my post again, and i can see that i didn't make it clear enough. I was trying to make it like Jerry and George's reaction to Elaine telling them that Sue Ellen Mishke never wears a bra.

That's just appaling, disgusting, it's wrong, he's a pig, Jackie's a pig....

J. Chiles

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PostPosted: June 14, 2005 11:17 PM 

I resemble that comment.

Try reading from the end to the beginning and maybe you get through half. Wink

J. Chiles

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PostPosted: June 14, 2005 11:19 PM 

Oh, and my c'mon was like Jack's, CJ.


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PostPosted: June 15, 2005 12:29 AM 

Reading backwards has ruined Jimmy for forward reading.

Bob Sakamano

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PostPosted: June 15, 2005 6:47 AM 

JC, I think your wrong, in the volume 1 and 2 (cuz i didn't hear all the commentaries yet of vol 3). IN the Yada yadas, she was saying all kind of lil bit of info, she and jason are the one who talk the most. And I remember that there's plenty of time she was making references to thing that happenned and the others didn't remember.

But it's all about interpretation, I guess mine is different than yours.


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PostPosted: June 15, 2005 7:01 AM 

Did you shave your chest hair?


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PostPosted: June 15, 2005 10:38 AM 

If I could just steer the topic a tad my most hated actor(s) (because its too hard to settle on just one) John Ritter, Kirstie Alley, Alan Thicke, Kirk Cameron, and Wilford Brimley. That's it you've been great.

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